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But fatalism says God willed it. thats why it happened..

Have they put their faith in Christ though? I used to believe so. But I have come to doubt that

Sorry, But it most certainly does not So we just throw the book of John out the window? I see alot of misrepresented passages here. as well as God being misrepresented

yep.

its amazing they contradict themselves. Thats what happens when you are in a faulty doctrine, you can;t even see your own contradictory statements

By the way, coming from you this is funny God forces people to believe by making them born again , and forces them to not believe by not making them born again But God never forces??

I am not trying to force anything on anyone. I am just having a conversation. Its not all about you.; so please stop with your silly falsa accusations I understand the living word sister.. And you keep falsly accusing me of this stuff. How do you expect a person to react when they are falsly...

And no one says otherwise. If y9ou would listen to what people actually say you would see this Yes, He chose us, Who are us? Those who see and believe, who have recieved him and given the power to become children of God.

Epi is a false prophet and leading many to hell. People need to stand up to him in this chatroom like they have all the chatrooms he has been a part of.

His written word IS his living word. As long as you continue to deny this, You continue to deny the written word. Don;t ask me if I am done when you refuse to recieve the written word and the cross.

amen Born again IN SIN. thats what they preach

Actually yes it does. Jesus own words say his When Jesus told Nicodemus he must be born again, Nicodemus, asked, How can these things be. Jesus told him. 9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and...

The reason i hate it so much is because of the scripture. which deny's it I believe in predestination. Just not the flawed calvinisitic fatalistic view of it. I do not object to that, Eternal life is eternal. it can not be lost. God called me to his grace. I just had to chose to say yes God...

No As long as you support a fatalistic view of God. We will never be done..

If your not born again, It will not do.

lol. Gods written word is alive and powerful.. It is his written word. Once again, THIS IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE? Is that why you do not want scripture to be his living word. because it does not support you?? Why do you hate his written word so much?

sorry, I can;t be born again UNTIL i trust first. Nonsensical..

Thats what scares me..

You tell me.. What does he baptize into Christ Paul said we were Romans 6:3 Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves...

think about it everyone According to Rita, we do not need the cross, or the word of God we just need the spirit to make us born again.. And people wonder why calvinism is so dangerous