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"They may be one...that's us ....as we are one...that's them. So then your argument contradicts itself.

OK Got it...thanks! ;)

How about this... Jesus is the Head of Israel...and we are the Body of Israel.

What about...WIJD What is Jesus doing? Or just...WWOD...What would Oprah do?

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That was Apak saying that....my writing is in the blue.

And this works for the Bride as well. Oneness. We are also called out of Egypt....the world as His Ecclesia.

So then we agree on the outcome. In your view Jesus has been elevated to divine status...as in become a god...like the Greeks thought an Olympic athlete could...? But Jesus created us....He has more honour than Moses just as the builder of the house has more honour than the house itself. You...

Actually Israel is the Bride of Christ. WE are Israel. The Israel of God. But in a way Jesus is also Israel. Since to be Israel means to overcome with God. And Jesus did that to make a way for us to do it.

...or thieves forcing you to "give them a hand" in order to steal your identity and money.

We can only stay fully surrendered as our level of maturity permits. After that the soul gets shaken from the peace that had previously been fully pleasing to it.

I think Christians will demand that it be imputed. Then they will accept it. ;)

"APAK, post: 440237, member: 7755"]Epi: John 10:30 and John 17:21 are classic misused verses by trinitarians to 'prove' that God is Jesus or vi se versa. Jesus and the Father are One. This is only difficult for the small brain of a human to comprehend. One must come at the bible like a...

Fair enough...I'm praying for ties that don't have a best before date. Mine seem to get time expired. ;)

Would you happen to have any spare ties???

That God put unbelievers into the Bride?

The charge of replacement theology is from Jews who want their flesh to count for something. But we know the flesh profits nothing. But Israel has always been, in God's mind, the church/congregation from all nations. Just not in the mind of people who have something to lose.

I take the personal stuff and leave it on the altar. It isn't personal...at least not at the outset. God is not a respecter of persons. Our history is important to us. But what God looks for is not what we think is important. So we have to realize that God must deal fairly with all mankind. So...

I would put it...Those who think they are holy...as opposed to they who think nobody can be. Both are using a creativity that comes from the flesh....but is outside the realm of the knowledge of God.

Echad....Oneness. John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." John 17:21" that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us, so that the world may believe that You sent Me." Zech. 2:9 ..."Then you will know that the Lord of hosts has sent Me."...