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Once again, BS, our beliefs mesh. Good points on Daniel's statue! Is anyone interested in why the nationality of the coming AC is Italian? It's direct from the pages of Daniel, in very direct fashion....and in a single statement. Tsigano - Glad you're learning some good stuff....as am I!

Tsigano - you answered Kaoticprofit's request for a single line of proof showing a revived Roman Empire as the end time beast...and you didn't even know it!:P Unfortunately, it shoots your Islam beast all full of holes.

Thanks BS! I have never been opposed to double fulfillments for any prophecy, including this one. Indeed, I believe there are many double fulfillments for all prophecy, both figurative and physical fulfillments. My guess for a "physical fulfillment" for "that Great City", outside of Vatican...

Veteran- I also might add that the women in The Rev are symbolically used to indicate a "bride" form of belief. Just as Rev 12's woman is possibly the "bride" of God ( Judaism / Israel ) , Rev 17 is composed of many individuals who may be found worthy to be included in the "bride" of...

Vet- There are some clues dropped in Rev 17 & 18 that debunks the idea that Bab the Great is a city. Indeed, the clues show us that it is a belief system, and not a physical place at all. For instance: Rev 17:4 - "a golden cup in her hand" - Catholicism, cup for taking the sacramental...

Let me ask you a simple question first. Answer it truthfully, without any extended summary, and I'll produce the scriptural proof you've so long requested. question: Who was the dominate world power who occupied Palestine at the time of the birth and death of Christ?

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Quite the diatribe on Islam! It is clear you are quite adamant about defaming Islam....and RIGHTLY SO!! Islam is certainly a false religion. Unfortunately, you are obviously "caught-up" in the current anti-Islamic fervor, and understandably, try to "fit" this current condition to something you...

You're kidding, right?:blink: Name another organization that uses as it's symbol a "golden chalice" ( as the whore is holding ). No town, country, nation, religious order, or other world religion uses as it's symbol a golden chalice. Furthermore, I never said it was Rome, or Italy or...

If I may interject here....Two women are used in The Revelation to denote and symbolize churches. One women ( Rev 12 ) is the Jewish Faith. The other women ( Rev 17 / 18 ) is the Christian Faith . Both women begot ( gave birth to ) an offspring belief. The woman of Rev 12 begot Christianity. The...

You need an open mind to understand the significance of Rev 10. The scholars don't know how to treat Rev 10, because it is clear from their analysis they don't. To understand Rev 10, one needs to put-aside well-established prophetic dogma. But quickly, I will tell you the following: Rev 10 is...

Then I guess I didn't understand your reply...

HEAR ! HEAR!...and AMEN!

Then from your interpretation, tell us directly...the date the first anointed one came ( basing that date on 454BC as the date of the commandment ), and the date the second anointed one came, and who the anointed ones are. And then tell us if the final week is history or future.

I agree here. "Their dead bodies lie in the streets of Jerusalem..."....That's pretty "literal" by any standard.... And I agree with what Terry is saying, except to add: The 2 witnesses testimony FOLLOW AFTER the first horseman and his end times ministry ( who emerges onto the world scene well...

I respect and accept your interpretation of the water and sand intersection as a "border". Lord knows you've provided ample scriptural evidence to back-up your belief. Your interpretation is noted with me, Vet. I emboldened your first set of questions and ask you: are you asking me to give you...

No, the lesson here is that what is past is...well....past. This generation needs to know their future, and quite frankly, you are laboring over a section of Daniel that has been fulfilled. There is ample corroborating prophetic scripture that shows two sets of 3.5 year periods ( or 42 months...

To correctly establish a time frame for Daniel's 70-weeks prophecy, all verse must be considered ( 24-27 ). And there shall be continued disagreement over what dates are actually being relayed there....if it even matters. However, the 69 weeks of years time span is somewhat irrelevant to this...

AMEN TO THAT!

With the exception of prophecy, and it's inherrant symbolism, anything written in any Bible - In my humble opinion - was so translated and so provided by God as to provide a simple understanding to anyone - be they "schooled or not schooled" - who sincerely wishes to understand it. It does not...