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  1. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Nope. Does God led let YOU off the hook for attacking the Catholic Church for things YOU and YOUR fellow Protestants are guilty of??
  2. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    They did. YOU moved the goal posts to a conversation about churches in the first few centuries of the Church. there WEREN'T any. Christians were being persecuted and martyred. They worshiped in secret. That's what the Catacombs were for, Einstein . . .
  3. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    And if that's all you got out of Christ's exchange with the Rich Man - you missed the point entirely. You have a literalist understanding of the Word instead of a spiritual understanding . . .
  4. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Uhhhhh, speaking of BAD memories – it was YOU who moved the goals posts. The conversation about statues and images became an argument about statues in CHURCHES. You had to be reminded that there weren’t many church buildings until AFTER the persecutions – AFTER the FOURTH century. BEFORE...
  5. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Spoken like a person who is completely devoid of understanding of Scripture. Jesus wasn’t telling the rich Man to sell everything and starve to death. He was telling him that he cannot depend on his wealth to save his SOUL. Having money isn’t sinful. It’s the LOVE of money. 1 Tim. 6:10 For...
  6. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    And I agree with you. There are FAR too many liberal and outright leftist universities and colleges that operate under the guise of “Christian”. However – the Pope isn’t in charge of the University system. So, are the Protestant colleges just as guilty?? Syracuse University: Pride seeUnion...
  7. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Uhhhhh, NO, we didn’t. YOU settled on statues when the original argument was about ALL imagery. MY position all along has been about IMAGES. This is why @epostle produces a 2nd century example of a Christian image. YOU moved the goal posts to include only statues in churches . . .
  8. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Your argument here is ridiculous. You are placing too much emphasis on things and not self control. It’s one thing if a person‘s proclivity is a vice, like pornography or drinking or drugs. EVERYBODY has to earn money to eat. A greedy man who walks away from money altogether will starve. A...
  9. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Sooooo, you’re “okay” with all of the badly-behaving Protestants – but NOT okay with the badly-behaving Catholics – is that it?? And you don’t see ANY hypocrisy in your remarks?? Unreal . . .
  10. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife ~ UNPROVEN CLAIMS..

    This is talking about the "ROTTING" of the flesh - not sin. Our glorified body will bot ROT like our mortal body. yhisd has NOTHING to do with the flesh itself being "sinful" - but being SUBJECT to the consequences of sin.
  11. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife ~ UNPROVEN CLAIMS..

    Then, why can't you explain to me HOW you still "HAVE" sin when you have been forgiven and no longer soin?? Why is this so difficult for you??
  12. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    And some Protestant eat and drink too much. Weren't they "taught" not to by their pastors?? The point is that EVERYBODY sins - even when they are taught NOT to sin. The Catholic Church has NEVER taught anybody to "pray to" statues. This is idolatry and something that the Catholic Church has...
  13. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    I've posted this at least TWICE on this thread alone. Irenaeus "He [Jesus] came to save all through himself; all, I say, who through him are reborn in God: INFANTS, and children, and youths, and old men. Therefore he passed through every age, becoming an INFANT for INFANTS, sanctifying infants...
  14. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    St. John of Damascus is listed as an "Early Church Father" in every list I've seen. He lived in the 8th century,
  15. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Really?? Augustine taught that Infant Baptism was an APOSTOLIC practice that was handed down . . . Augustine "The custom of Mother Church in baptizing infants is certainly not to be scorned, nor is it to be regarded in any way as superfluous, nor is it to be believed that its tradition is...
  16. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    This is complete ignorant nonsense. The SAME can be said about those with a penchant for exposing themselves. Should they be strapped down so that they can't remove their clothing?? Should a vain woman only be allowed to wear burlap sacks instead of fashionable clothing?? should a greedy man...
  17. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    Nope. When did "settle" this??
  18. BreadOfLife

    BreadOfLife ~ UNPROVEN CLAIMS..

    Then, explain to us, Einstein how a person is forgiven of ALL sin and sins NO MORE – yet STILL possesses sin. CAN you explain that? This oughtta be good . . .
  19. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    RUBBISH. This isn't a problem with statues. It's a problem with the FAITH of some. You can't blame an inanimate object for the nonsense that some people attribute to it. That is as silly as blaming a bowl of spaghetti because somebody claimed that the Blessed Mother appeared in it . . .
  20. BreadOfLife

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

    WHO said that the tradition od images started AFTER the Apostolic age?? All we have left are examples from the early 2nd century and beyond. That doesn’t mean it all started “after” the Apostles. It simply means that they didn’t survive. The same goes for any other Catholic...