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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    no; they don't. you just have no idea how to interpret them. Immediately Saul fell full length on the ground, and was dreadfully afraid because of the words of Samuel. (1 Samuel 28:20) God says this is Samuel. you say God is a liar. calling God a liar is never good hermeneutic.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    this is an incorrect use of language. Jesus IS contrary to your preaching, Jesus does not cease to exist. Jesus is not annihilated. He is the Almighty God, from everlasting to everlasting. Jesus Christ is I AM. that's kind of the key to your debauchery -- if you did not reject Him, all your...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    this is all very interesting in a very scatological sense -- that is, you are a very interesting character, in respect to how totally debased your thinking is. it is amazing how confused and perverse an human mind can become! why do you believe God lied to us? why do you believe scripture is...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    the name means "God has helped"
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    @quietthinker perhaps i am only growing old and 'losing my filter' -- but just as much as i am no longer afraid to tell the ones i love, that i love them, neither am i afraid to tell those who i think are wrong and crazy, that they are wrong and crazy. i died last year. i don't know how many...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    look m8, i mean, do you believe what the JW's preach? is Jesus a mere mortal man who was enlightened then annihilated? was He replaced by an angel on the cross, to deceive the apostles? are only 144k saved, that by their works? to which, according to their accounting, they were all numbered by...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    this is an interesting question: when He says forgive them for they do not know what they are doing -- is He talking about the pharisees, sadducees and herodians? or is He talking about the Romans? did the teachers of the law know what they were doing? had He given them every sign and proof...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    think instead of the sadducees, who also said there is no resurrection, i.e. that all men cease to exist upon physical death. they are among those who sought to murder Him -- tho no one takes His life: He Himself lays it down, and He takes it up again did Christ approve their dialogismos?
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    bro i read proverbs every day. for years. decades. that doesn't mean i am wise, but it means i have no excuse to fail to recognize foolishness for what it is. all over it is instruction on discerning fools from wise men. how can it be that no one is allowed to discern foolishness from wisdom...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    see, this being the case -- that God's intention and will for man is that he be an eternal being -- it is hard to make the argument that He utterly annihilates any of them. that would be God defeated. my God is invincible. ((and no -- am not arguing univeralism. am arguing eternal existence of...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    erm, i called JW's nutsos. afaik you aren't a JW, so even tho you and i don't share the same understanding on this topic, i don't consider you a non-Christian cultist ((which is my informed theological opinion of JW's))
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    from the narrative of people like @Aunty Jane and @Phoneman777 and @quietthinker and all the nutso JW's creeping around this place. theorems are proven or disproven at their extrema.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    but when God first created Adam -- did He make Adam in order to utterly annihilate Adam, or in order that Adam have eternal life with his Creator? set aside the issue of sin for a moment, that poisons us: are we designed as eternal beings or designed as disposable, temporary trash?
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    if you wish I (we) will make three tabernacles here

    Christ is God and does not need 'fortification' - Elijah and Moses are not going 'don't worry, Lord Christ, it will be ok, be brave, don't cry' as you suggest, but Christ is explaining to them the mystery of His purpose and what He will do at the cross, which had been hidden from all creation...
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    if you wish I (we) will make three tabernacles here

    maybe 'stupid idea' was a poor way to phrase it on my part, but Mark & Luke make it clear that what Peter suggested was not wise. so we have the question, why does God put this into the narrative? why record Peter suggesting something foolish? and the answer to that is in part to instruct us...
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    if you wish I (we) will make three tabernacles here

    look at what is written in Mark and Luke -- Peter suggested this because he did not know what he was saying. IOW -- it was a stupid idea; Peter & the others were frightened, and not thinking clearly.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    muse on that with me then: did He, in the sight of the angels, create the living souls with the purpose that He should annihilate them? was God's intent of forming Adam to destroy Adam?
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    the angels rejoiced when they saw us created, and longed to look into the things of the gospel To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    person is not only the natural body; therefore not the natural body at all, which is temporal. this is exactly the reason Christ, who is eternal life, said do not fear those who can only destroy the body -- fear Him who can destroy both body and soul: which is not a promise He annihilates all...