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You sent me to a twaddle site that teaches this? Do you have any actual biblical support for your position....beyond a Dispensationalist (heretical) website?

Again..we are talking about the new covenant. You said that it was unconditional. You have yet to show WHY you think that. You are VERY hard to speak with as you ignore points and just steamroll your agendas and opinions. Try answering line by line.

Of course there are different order to things and different gifts of the Spirit. For some the baptism in the Holy Spirit is the primary or first experience. And we can't use tongues as the only evidence of the baptism of the Spirit. Prophecy is better.

Divine wisdom is the knowledge of the holy. There is a word in Hebrew for divine or eternal wisdom and that is תושיה or.."toushiyah" wisdom. It is usually translated as "sound wisdom".

So far our conversations have been me providing textual evidence from the bible and you responding with your opinions in bolded text...with the idea that whoever posts more (and with bigger letters) is proved right. Am I missing something here? I don't think truth works that way. We have been...

I think so too. When Paul says..."the time is nearer than we first thought"...was that because he was thinking a million years from then? I think not. A day is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as a day. It reminds me of the man who prayed..Lord for you a minute is as a 100 years and...

it is only a discussion if we both participate...kind of like a covenant being 2 ways and all. :)

Did you even check to see if there is a Bema judgment mentioned in the bible? Or are you saying this just to differ? For we must all appear before the judgment seat (Bema) of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what we have done whether good or bad (2...

Please stop with the games....show me where you get this unconditional notion.

"Ac28, post: 436106, member: 7152"]So? I'm waiting. Dan. 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. Many shall arise....not all. This is the 1st resurrection. The rest are judged after the 1,000...

This is semantics. We will all appear before a tribunal...either the Bema or the GWT...to receive for what we have done. After this life.

You need to look up the word "if". A Covenant: An agreement between 2 parties. A contract. A marriage is a covenant. A peace treaty is a covenant. cov·e·nant ˈkəvənənt/ noun noun: covenant; plural noun: covenants 1. an agreement. synonyms: contract, agreement, undertaking, commitment...

Look for "IF's." In the English language an "IF" is a conditional proposal that includes conditions. Jesus said: "For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins."...

I wish you would give us all here some rest with your twisting thoughts.

Again I leave you to your very stubborn and misguided opinions.

This is far from the truth. Judgment begins at the house of God.

You have much pride as you think by bolding words it makes them more true. Show in the bible where you get this idea from. Look at all the "ifs" in the NT. The "IF's" show it's conditional.

That's a cheap shot ....you only have that kind of tactic when you make things up...that are NOT found in the word. Also...pride is not something that is covered by the Lord unless you repent of it.

I agree. Doctrine doesn't save us....but walking in new life does. The new life in Christ IS justification. Also, new life in Christ IS sanctification. So it is all about life...of the eternal kind.

...walk in the same power and purity as He.