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    Speculating on ... "the lie" ... (endtimes)

    Problem with that is the false one Apostle Paul is pointing to in 2 Thess.2:3-4 is about one the orthodox Jews will receive as Messiah. That man of sin will have to come in the role of The Christ, which is exactly the idea our Lord Jesus warned us of in His Olivet Discourse about events for the...
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    Who created evil and death?

    That's not really the Biblical way to look at it. Evil and death are destined to be destroyed, which is enough to know that it was not in God's original order of things. When making comparisons of God using evil for this present world, that in no way can be used to assign evil as some natural...
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    “The Flesh”—Physical Body and “The Flesh”—Sinful Nature

    Like Jesus said, that which is born of flesh IS... flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit (John 3:6). They are two totally separate and distinct orders of operation per God's Holy Writ. It makes no sense trying to confuse the two just because the occultists like to think they can...
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    The second Death.. Did you know that there was one?

    I will not entertain vain arguments that our Lord Jesus was subject to 'sin' just because He likewise was born in the flesh through woman's womb as we. IF... you ever think Christ Jesus had 'sin' just because of being born in the flesh, then you have NO Salvation, period. That's why...
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    “The Flesh”—Physical Body and “The Flesh”—Sinful Nature

    The object Apostle Paul spoke of is our 'flesh body'. Don't allow the NIV translators to fool you with their terms like "sinful nature". Rom 7:18 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I...
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    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    Yeah, then stay illiterate of Old Testament prophecy then like you are. No, the difference is that your are NOT... LISTENING to our Lord Jesus about that new wine and old bottles parable, for you have yet... to recognize it's about following the doctrines of men instead that harden your mind...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    The disscussion here between you and Michael is easy enough. You're obviously an Amillennialist, throwing away the events of Christ's still future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20, which are written in many Old Testament Scriptures also; I quoted one of them to you, a section from...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    That's where you are partly wrong. In Rom.9 where you're referring to, Apostle Paul covered 'both' the seed of Israel in the promise, and those of faith not of the seed also. So we cannot just throw out the seed of Israel in the Promise. Later in Rom.11:1-5, Paul shows how God has not cast...
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    The second Death.. Did you know that there was one?

    We only die once in this flesh. That's what God's Word says as written. That one time death of our flesh body is "appointed" because of Adam and Eve's sin in God's Garden, that sin imparted to all men born in the flesh (except our Lord Jesus). Cannot compare our Lord Jesus in that, because He...
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    “The Flesh”—Physical Body and “The Flesh”—Sinful Nature

    Thank you, and my hope of the same for you and yours. Our flesh body actually has... lusts, urges all its own. Don't eat for a few days and see how your flesh rebels. Our flesh body has passions that are difficult to control. And when we introduce our flesh to something it likes, it produces...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    You clarified for Michael, not me. I went back to read further what you had said to him. You're arguments are just all over the place, not making sense. Apparently you're thinking about the promises Michael mentioned in view of later 'restoration' theology of the 18th and 19th centuries...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    Yeah, and I showed by Scripture how you are wrong about that. There's more than one word used for that point of the 'gathering' to Christ at His coming. You see, I'm well aware of how the Pre-trib Rapture school wrongly... tries to separate the 1 Thess.4 "caught up" Scripture away... from all...
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    “The Flesh”—Physical Body and “The Flesh”—Sinful Nature

    In reality much of that reasoning is confusion. One must first understand how God's Word defines our individual makeup, how He created us. Per Eccl.12:5-7 we KNOW our flesh body is just a shell for our spirit with soul, and that at flesh death our flesh goes back to the elements of earthly...
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    Who created evil and death?

    It's been covered in-depth here within this Thread already in previous posts. Many of God's people don't really understand enough of God's Word about the devil's origin and how evil began, when our Heavenly Father did show us in His Word. Proof of that is how even here thus far within this...
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    Which part of Revelation 17-18 does not fit USA?

    Claim what you want, since anyone can come here claiming what you have. It will not destroy the evidence presented in those works I mentioned above. And thanks for revealing yourself, now I 'know' to add you to my Ignore list, seeing how your political views show obvious alignment with that...
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    The second Death.. Did you know that there was one?

    Don't be fooled, the rest of The Bible aligns with what Eccl.12:5-7 teaches of what happens at flesh death, just as our Lord Jesus also taught the same idea in Matt.10:28. Paul taught the same idea in the 2 Cor.5 Scripture, and revealed our three parts (flesh/spirit-soul) even in more detail in...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    You'll have eat crow with that kind of statement. John Darby's Dispensationalism also agreed in God's Word about His promises to the seed of Israel that their nation would be restored in final under Christ Jesus, even to include the original inheritances of the land to the 12 tribes. British...
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    Covenant Relationships & the Bible as Literature

    None of us have authority to do that, only Christ Jesus has. See the matter in Isaiah 28 & 29 where God shows us how. Man's 'old bottle' traditions per Christ's parable of the new wine and old bottles. You don't put the 'new wine' into 'old bottles' lest they break. It's because those 'old...
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    If no Rapture - then what ?

    I think you're a little mixed up. NONE of what I covered there was to support some false Pre-trib Rapture. Instead, it all... supports Christ's gathering of His Church of both the 'asleep' saints in Heaven and His saints still alive on earth, AT THE SAME TIME. It is a detail focus upon the very...
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    James vs Paul

    But I certainly do believe both Paul and James preached the 'same' Gospel, simply because there can only be ONE Gospel of Jesus Christ, period. The difference between what was preached to Israel vs. the Gentiles is in regard to two different 'administrations' of the same Gospel. As written in...