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This is a silly notion. If there is no wind then God is absent? If there is a hurricane then God is angry? The bible also says I will rain righteousness down on you... Hos. 10:12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; break up your fallow ground: for it is time to seek the LORD...

Am I stubborn in comparison to your own teachability? Or is stubborn the adjective you use for they who see through the smoke and mirrors you are presenting here.

Spiritual is inward. But we do put on Christ...although that is still inward. His stripes, of the spiritual kind, are invisible. If they were visible they would be OUR stripes, wouldn't they? I'm not saying that stripes received outwardly for His sake are not also His stripes. But how many of...

"he was bruised for our iniquities" It was the religious men that hated Him so. We must be careful to not harbour iniquity in ourselves. This still "bruises" Him in that the Spirit is grieved when we turn religious and cease to look for Him in a living way. Religion seeks to kill what is...

"the chastisement of our peace was upon him" We were looking for our own peace. But by doing that we opposed the will of God and HIS peace. We missed the perfect because who thought we were doing the good...and what was good for us. So then we wanted peace on OUR own terms. But God is wise and...

Isaiah 53:5 [5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. How are we healed with His stripes? On a human level: We become ashamed of what we are capable of...our cruelty...our...

Incredulous I see.

The lost sheep of Israel includes Ephraim (not just Judah)...which is us! Jesus had 2 sheepfolds...and the 2 became one in Him. First the Jews...then us. And now both in one.

Our ancestors worshiped trees. Do you worship wind?

...or..we are up FOR something. (it's those pesky little words!) ;)

Theologically deep interpretation...I like that! :) Normally I say...difficult. So then many will seek to enter by the narrow way but will not be able because it is too theologically deep?!

The Spirit of God is LIKE the wind. Wind is mysterious. It is an invisible force that has great power. But a natural wind is just that...natural. There is no life in a natural wind. The Spirit is as a wind in the natural...but it/He is divine.

It is best to remain open that the more difficult interpretation could be the actual one. The only other source we have for truth is the Holy Spirit after that. The bible is written under His influence, after all. There is also testimony...but no one believes that any more.

It isn't word plays...it's our foundational way of reading the bible. As you can see the effects of one small word is devastating. Thanks for the list! Christ coming to live in us is a miracle. But there is a new miracle awaiting they who seek the Lord for it...entering into Christ.

But the Greek language dates from at least a thousand years before Christ. We have linear a and linear b before that, although that could also been a form of Greek....Mycenean style.

My point is that a little word in like "in" or "on" can make all the difference in the world. Do you live in a house or on a house? The latter makes me think of Snoopy. Do we pour water on a cup or into a cup? The former makes me think that the cup has been turned over. The bible is all...

Yet both bolded words in the above verse are the Greek eis. So there is a problem in translation.

Non-believers sin against each other and know it...although do they sin against God and grievously...they don't believe they are. Believers at least at certain times also sin against God...but these are more responsible. We are held to a higher standard. So then iniquity is human pride masking...

Basically we are all from the same church...are we not?

Agreement as much as possible. Then we leave it to God who does the impossible...unity.