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I'm not debating JESUS. Jesus said in Luke 8:13 that the person BELIEVED FOR A WHILE,,, and then they FELL AWAY. WHAT did they FALL AWAY from? John 6:47 He WHO BELIEVES has eternal life. Right. HE WHO BELIEVES......present tense. IF you STOP believing, you lose your eternal life. Do you...

That sounds like double talk to me. You repeat that God does indeed CAUSE us to walk in His ways... and then you agree with me that we have to agree. So which is it? Does God CAUSE us to walk in His ways or not? 1 John 2:17 what does this have to do with our convo?

Is it going to give you a special joy to prove me wrong? LOL NO. I DON'T STAND CORRECTED YET! I don't agree with your item 4. and therein lies the problem. If you believe GOD gave all the commandments in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, you've been drinking too much kool aid. (I hear others say...

You know BoL... I LOVE the ECFs and have no problem with them at all. But, what is more important....all you've quoted above... OR the fact that keeping the Sabbath is a COMMANDMENT (the 10) and the commandments are forever? I don't worship on Saturday, but this has me very confused.

Yes BL,,,,I agree with you even though I don't keep the Sabbath. I do feel that the commandments are forever (the 10 I mean) and this has me very confused. Jesus couldn't resurrect on a Saturday? JK

Of course I agree with everything you've stated EXCEPT re eternal security. The N.T. is chock full of verses that show we have conditional eternal security. It's conditional on being IN CHRIST. We have to NOT LEAVE CHRIST. If we are IN CHRIST we are saved...if we are NOT IN CHRIST, we are not...

FAROUK! You never answer my replies to you! What do I have to do to get you to answer me? Get some ink?

There's too much here and I can't go thru this on a Sunday. If you remind me tomorrow,,,,I DO want to reply to it. Please remind me.

I can't remember if I replied to this BoL. Not everything the CC teaches is supported by scripture. I think I have answered this....sorry. I was thinking of the assumption.

It's just that I'm becoming weary of persons that have to go back to the O.T. to make a point.... Ezekiel 36:25-27 says the same as Philippians 2:12-13 And what do they say? If you're calvinist in theology, you won't have a problem with what they say... If not....then it's difficult to take...

Hi BL, The above is a very good point! I happen to know the covenants well, or at least enough to know that I know very little, but your point has never come to my mind. Conditional covenants certainly have been broken by man. And as far as unconditional covenants,,,I like to say that regarding...

Well, I learned from others. But I do feel that I have to come to grips with everything in my own mind. If that's what you mean...OK.

Yes,,,I do know of some that believe the beginning of your first paragraph... that the LofF will just burn everything up because God could not be so mean as to let the lake last forever. I too tend to believe that it will be eternal...but some that believe it will not are REALLY intelligent...

Agreed. I hate learning from Prof. Google too! I only use links when absolutely necessary and only what I know to be correct. (In my learnings, of course). The Athanasian Creed. I don't find any problem with it. I believe the great I AM is God Father,,,but Jesus said He was in the N.T. so...

Ask God for myself regarding further revelation? No...and here's why: 1. I have the bible that could answer any question for me. This is why we have the bible. 2. I see persons on these forums that ask God....unfortunately, for some reason, He doesn't seem to give us all the same reply. This...

Huh? My man....do you think there's ANYBODY on this here forum... that DOES NOT know that Jesus was Jewish? And I've already asked you to GIVE US SOME CREDIT for intelligence. Thanks you. P.S. I NEVER twist scripture.

@Jane_Doe22 I have to leave... I looked quickly through Wikepedia under Mormonism...LDS. So far I haven't seen anything alarming. The Trinity is different.... Instead of 3 in 1 It becomes 1 in 3 Some Christians think like this...it's not easy to understand the Trinity. I'd find it...

It was stopping at 181.....the beginning of the page. I posted over there....

I absolutely agree in personal revelation. I've often spoke to this and have also said that personal revelation is for the person ALONE and should not even be shared...of course some aspect of it can, but it's meant for that person alone. I can't agree to the rest. That would mean that anyone...

What theology of mine? I don't make theology.... I agree with your last paragraph, but I don't understand why you posted...