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It must have got your attention...hey hey COFFEE Drugged and bouncing with the beans City life with all its scenes Screaming as life passes by Hoping it will satisfy Up at dawn and down the hatch Midday break and more to match As the evening’s sure to follow So will be another swallow Fill...

you never know, Damascus might be just ahead.

I might add, you must be aware that 'ignore' is akin to putting ones head in the sand as all other viewers continue to see the tail end. :).......and what's more.....I can see you but you can't see me, but I'm sure that hasn't escaped you!

I also see you have a high opinion of yourself!

I can roll with that

:).....I'm surely glad you are not the judge BJ. I think if you were I would be down in the basements of certain Cathedrals in the company of all those torture tools......and it wouldn't be to play the spoons. :)

we could extend this conversation considerably DNB but I don't see any progress doing so. I notice that your justification for the three points I made hinge on highlighting punishment. I would ask respectfully that a look into the meaning of God's justice is a worthwhile exercise.

and do you really think that's what I'm saying Amos?

I can see you've lived a privileged life BJ.

the wicked and wickedness will surely be destroyed but how that comes about is another question. Justice fundamentally means liberation from oppression. Can human beings think in terms of Justice without overt arbitrary punishment?... it seems not. We even superimpose our sentiments onto God...

you needn't be concerned Timo if your heart is bone fide.....you are being tested....present tense. You might not now how or by whom.

You think I evade only because your understanding of Justice involves an element of darkness in God. I do not see it like that.

stamp collecting, football, business and theology all have many things in common. They give importance to unimportance and value to that which is valueless....they create systems where there is much to do about nothing. They inflate themselves with their own importance.....creating their own...

Oh Rosie....talking about love is one thing, experiencing it is another. What we should do and what we do do are two different things. Seeing God's gift comes with progressive other awarenesses....the primary awareness is the extent of ones own unworthiness (its a bottomless abyss) It is layers...

I am overwhelmed that I should be loved.....that I should be loved with a love of which my understanding is so limited.....and as the windows of my mind open, as I see how pathetic my faith is in the face of such undeserved kindness, the tears flow easily.

being thankful for forgiveness is a present continuous mindset that knows itself and ones weaknesses.

Now, that rocks!

the determined....the forceful.....those with their eye on the goal to the cost of all else are entering God's kingdom. again....the disenfranchised, marginalised ....the publicans and harlots (Matt 21:31).... those hungering and thirsting.

in the flesh A-R....in the flesh!

my understanding of 'understanding' is accompanied with tears....often many. I have found in those 'rudimentary attributes' nothing to leave behind.....in fact they come to the fore and are breathtaking.