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Well then you wrong either way. Man you just keep digging yourself a hole. You need a shove for that digging. The Law was inferior to Christ teachings and the Spirit of the Law is even worse.

Correct but we are not under the Law, nor are we to look to it for justification. The ministry of death engraved on stones was but a tutor, but now we have no need for a tutor..... The Mosaic Law is an inferior example of morals compared to the teachings of Christ and the Apostles...How many...

Wonderful concept and it occurs at the point of being saved....of course it would fit into your beliefs about sin and sin some more because than Christ would not remember anything you did....again back to homosexual child molesting cannibals being in heaven. When you put what you believe in...

God is good in relation to perfection. Christians are good because they prescribe to and live by the morals of Christ. They cannot live up to them, but they can live their lives by them. The difference between how good people can be and perfection is covered by Grace. Just how much to invest...

Blah! Blah! Blah! Translation of all that...Blood Bought cherry picks the scriptures.

No they were not around when That would be an interesting verse to find.... The phrase created in Christ is a metaphor....I like it but it sorta proves one my points.... Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that...

This I agree with you. And as I said I am dealing with two extremes here. Those that believe that you have to be perfect to be saved and those that believe you can live a sinful life...a sinful lifestyle and go to heaven. No accepting Christ and salvation are the beginning of the journey...

Well were I am from I know a lot of Good Christians and as Paul referred to Christian as saints....that comes from the phrase the holy ones from the Hebrew. That is all true...but Christ expects us to be moral and those that are not get judged for their deeds on Judgment Day. Is He...

No I am absolutely correct.

Not true. You will still be judged for your sins on judgment Day. Saved is a point in time. You still going to answer for what you do. You can not fool Christ. And no we are not judged his or any other Gospel. What you do is your fault, not Christ's And again all the scriptures tell you who will...

Nope. Nope. Yeap. You are correct... Who is rejecting being saved? No one is rejecting Grace. Grace is wonderful. Like I said Christ is not on trial on the quality of His Grace...as every scripture pertaining to Judgment Day says...we are judged by our deeds, maybe the lack of...

Well you know since I am a Christian and you are Christian...that is the beginning. Then you have your whole life ahead of you. In the end...when you are standing before Christ, how good He did on your salvation is not being judged....guess what...all scriptures say you will be judged on your...

What I am dealing with here on this thread are two extremes, those that think you have to be perfect to be saved or be a true Christian and those that think that you can sin all you want and go to heaven....both are a lie. But, on the other hand wrong as it may be...if you think you have to be...

Like I said...try your hand at twisting or explaining away these scriptures.... Let me guess! You think they were just kidding when they wrote these scriptures? The OSAS beliefs are based on explaining away about half the Bible. How do you explain them away? 1st John3:8: He that committeth sin...

I do not think that anything the Bible says is going to matter to you.

Do you think you are perfect? God is real and Christianity is real and we are real...so the only religious beliefs I am interested in are real. Christ can make us perfect before God the Father but that is a clock of Grace. I do not dabble in fantasy religions.

Do you think you are perfect?

Oh you are so wrong about Judaism. That is laughable! Plan on selling your daughter as a sex slave anytime soon? You better know Judaism before you talk to me about Judaism. I grew up with Jews, studied Judaism at Jewish Studies at American University in Washington DC and Hebrew University in...

LOL That is not what I am talking about. Again do you think you are perfect? Do you think it is possible for anybody? Do you think Christ thinks we can be perfect. Answer the questions because that is all your going to get from here on out.

So do you really think you can be perfect? One of questions I have already asked. There is no surprise why there are so many denominations....because people like you start denominations.... But again do you think you can be perfect? Do you think your salvation depends on you being perfect? I...