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Not defensive. Just trying to keep things straight. I misunderstood your statements on common law marriages. Without vows is just sex...is another thing. Speaking of the normal course...two people in love...want to have and to hold...from this day forward...marriage is a matter of the heart...a...

No no no I got your point...the topic itself.

Just no. All the people in the Bible did not go to hell because they were married without a wedding. There is no way of not having sex outside of marriage. Sex joins the couple in marriage. Weddings are a wonderful custom and celebration...but it is not Biblical.

Rape victims...people that have one night stands...The marriage is about coupling up and staying together.

If sex forms a union then why do they burn in hell when they don't get married before having sex? This whole conversation is wrong...fornication is a post biblical concoction. God did not make a process for going to hell. Unless you are whore mongering or doing Pagan rituals there is no sin...

Yes and Yahweh explains how. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This was how marriages were formed in the biblical era.

Well first of there is common law marriages... But then again, you are pointing out all the reason for a weddings, of which I agree. As long as you don't say that vows and weddings are required by the Bible. Or that the wedding is what consummates the marriage, because that would mean that no...

I am not sure what you are getting at. Marriage is a good thing. Two thumbs up!!! The question is; What do you do to get married? What forms a marriage. The answer is the sexual union, as God defined. That is how people formed marriages in the Bible....and even today....weddings are a wonderful...

Sorry that my post lead your thread a different direction. Lets go down your path. The title of the thread is "The birthing is the key" and I agree. You said...in the scriptures, how in 'the world' can God have children. The world claims (some in the world) that we are all the children of God...

You are right He did... And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? This is how God said to form a marriage. Again, no biblical requirement for wedding ceremony, anywhere in the Bible. The Catholic Church made...

LOL Like I said, topic of discussion and debate. Our salvation is not just physical...there is a spiritual side of it.

Since the Bible does not require a wedding ceremony. That is both Old and New Testament that does not require a wedding ceremony to form a marriage...so the answer is obvious. The first documented Christian wedding was eight centuries after the biblical era. The Protestants were the first to...

Interesting, I like it. Several topics of discussion, even debate. 1. Is Yeshua the true Son of God? In other words did Yahweh and Miriam have sex? And she conceived from His seed...real Son. I say yes...real Son. 2. Born again...During Baptism...when a person comes out of the water it is...

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Early in the morning.

You might want to put some of this in the porta potty for the guys.

I have already stood on the battle line between Israel and it enemies. And I will again if need be.

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