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Well ya know...we will get there.

The United States is not perfect...but do not hold your breath trying to find a better country or one that considers God as it's guide...and of all the countries in the world, what other country supports Israel, at least when there is a republican president.

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No I am quoting scripture....why do some Christians have trouble with scriptures. You quote scriptures for the OSAS people and it is "Oh my God you are quoting from the legalist part of the Bible!" I have corrected you once already. Do not put words in my mouth...I will spit them back at you...

You are talking in circles...who is rejecting what? Who is judging God, I just got done saying we cannot. And who is talking about worship? If you are a pacifist ...I am ok with that...if you tell me that God is a pacifist ...I have already given you the scriptures that prove you are wrong...

Those that die during Armageddon, that is not Christ's fault. Those that get cast into the lake of fire, that is not Christ's fault. But there will be violence.

I am the one that says God did not change. He was never a pacifist. As He said...a time for peace and a time for war. Armageddon will not be like powder puff football.

Neither of us can justify God...or judge God...kind of above our pay grade. I just gave you the facts as laid out in the Old and New Testament. No offense...a lot of Christians do not like truth. The discussion on eye for and eye and then turning the other cheek and not resist evil...He is...

Does this statement mean anything. Are you thinking that it is not Christ at Armageddon? I do not mind you having a belief, based on your opinion. Hey freedom of religion... But I gave you a lot of scriptures proving that God the Father and God the Son...Trinity can be violent.

Oh I am not saying that the Catholics are they only one that does it. The history of it goes back to the Catholics.

I already described Christ's actions on earth as mostly non violent. I was responding to your statement that God is non-violent. And I proved to you biblically, that that was wrong...Old Testament and New Testament that God is violent. God was violent in the Old Testament, and in the New...

And @Rita too. The history goes back a long ways and it is rather involved and to some degree involves the Catholic Church's belief it had control of salvation. They also did forced baptisms and that is another story. But the way I look at it, I see no harm in dedicating or christening a baby...

So you think that our God is non-violent? You are wrong and I will prove it to you. Don’t get me wrong, I think the peace lovers and the sheep and the innocent are the best that Christ has to offer. So if you are a sheep, I am not asking you to change. But there is a reason that sheep have...

Of course not....go try to convert them...LOL Have no idea what you are talking about. A day is a 1000 years and a 1000 years is a day. It is a riddle that means this instant anytime you say it. But of course people use it to explain why they believed they were living in the last days...and...

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Kool...so be martyr. May I recommend a Moslem country. so we see how they interpreted His Words. Well they made their mistakes...They thought He would return soon. Again I am not a fundamentalist...so I am not worried about it.

Whether he errored or not...? My point was simply that he was not a pacifist, also in light of the fact that Christ told them to buy swords. And they acknowledged that they had two. I am telling you what happened, you guys have to figure out what it means. I am not concerned. As far as this...

Not rejecting anything, just looking at what actually went on. And I do not think that Peter was a pacifist. Any way I just gave you guys information, I am not a Fundamentalist.

LOL LOL Lets hear it...what do you think swords are for? What do you think Christ was thinking? But I am not saying that Christians did not embrace martyrdom initially. It just did not last.

Just to add info for the debate... Exodus 21:23-25 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise. This is actually one of the Mosaic Laws. And I do have issues with...