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A person cannot sin when he abides in Christ...but a living sacrifice has a tendency to crawl of the altar...

I'm hoping you don't include the man named Jesus of Nazareth in your tirade...or those who walk in Him who have been crucified with Him.

I am trying to reveal the way you see things even if you wish to avoid this light. The last person we get to know is ourselves. Are you avoiding the issue? Again you are tossing aside the bible for your own way of seeing the world. What kind of Christian prefers his own understanding to the...

This is so refreshing brother!!!! :) Well said!!

I agree that the encounter of the rich man with Jesus was not a salvation issue per se. Who would pass this same test today?? I have started a thread on this issue (narrow way) that people get in a snit about or try explaining away the purpose of God in Christ. Jesus came to build something...

Read the whole thread! We are called to the full stature of Christ. The early disciples had something the bible calls the ecclesia...the body of Christ. The purpose of the ecclesia is to build up the individuals into a oneness that reflects the way heaven is. This is also the means for every...

I like this...and they prepare the people to live it, not teach it. :)

Very good points and refreshingly honest! :) The NT account presents us with many dilemmas and scandals. The way to understand the meaning of these is not to quickly explain them away with a superficial argument.

You are arguing Jesus against Jesus? Are you sure you understand this thread? We live in an age of superficiality. That is the prevalent distinction of our time. The marriage commitment is taken lightly by many. Even the "believers" have a 50% divorce rate. When we take this superficial and...

What does the 2 become one flesh mean to you (in marriage)? Mat_19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

What does "being members one of another" mean to you? 1Co_12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 1Co_12:25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. 1Co_12:26 And whether one member suffer, all the members...

We see others the way we are ourselves. I am pointing out to believers what the bible says. Do you think an evangelist is being arrogant by preaching the word to non-believers? Or are you actually too saved to be able to hear any more from the bible since you have gotten what you want out of it?

The real question is why the same reaction as unbelievers to the calling in Christ? People like to ignore the bible in some places then claim their legitimacy from other places. So when have I not only stated the biblical position? The biblical practice is a SCANDAL to men. Trying to make it...

We come into unity by looking to God...not men. The bible is more than a story book...it is prophetic and testimonial. Non-believers stay away from the bible because they think the bible has nothing to do with them. Many modern believers do the same thing yet somehow claim to be believers. Same...

We obey the law of God by walking in Christ. You are right when you see that grace is first...and that should lead us to repentance. But this grace does not have this effect on everyone. Some will take the grace for granted as if God was become soft towards sin....that His love could afford us...

You are looking to escape the calling in Christ while diminishing that calling...while claiming to be a believer. Paul's letters address the difficulties. It would be wrong to think that Paul condoned them. The narrow way is to continue in the same unity that was at the beginning. It is the...

Very good post! The way of Christ makes no sense when looked at from the selfish perspective. Children have no trouble with it, however! ;)

We are all inspired by an eloquent rebuttal. :)

You are missing the biblical point. ...which is the greater point. There is nowhere in the bible where we see options as you would see it. The Christian community was based on households. This does not mean what middle class westerners think. There was no gathering around the family TV to watch...

My apologies...it was the Dominicans and the Franciscans...not the Augustinians! :) To be truly honest one must ask...who are those with a misguided fervency in Christendom? The Buddhists have their immolators...the Muslims their suicide bombers. But who are the misguided ones in the Christian...