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The reason that is a tricky verse, is because Paul is teaching it as "God's Foreknowledge".. Calvin teaches it as "pre-destined". And that is why there is utter confusion... Notice...., God sees who is going to believe before they are born, and that is "Fore knowledge"... = that is God knew...

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And if Paul was here today, on the forum.. .He would be teaching that you can't lose your Salvation, as Jesus is Salvation.." And all his "Thorns" would post....>"yes you can lose your salvation", and "Paul, you are teaching OSAS".

The "word was God", is not Created, as God has no beginning. So, that is the Pre-incarnate Jesus, who is the "Bread come down from Heaven". Jesus also describes Himself as the pre-incarnate Word, when He told you....>"I am from ABOVE, and you are from Below". Virgin born, fully God, fully...

The Holy Spirit created Jesus inside a Virgin's womb. Its the same Holy Spirit who "convicts the world of sin". Its the same Holy Spirit who causes the Spiritual Birth in a Believer, so that they become BORN AGAIN. So, YES... HE is real.. How So? "God is A Spirit" and "Christ is THAT Spirit".

@Episkopos ... Truth seekers wont be found on your Threads.. But those who know what you are doing here.... will be found here, giving you correction. And you dont mind, as for you, its all about getting more attention. Same as it everwas.... and will remain so.

She'll never teach that Jesus is a "whipping boy" on a Christian Forum. She'll never teaching the Theology of Mormonism, = "A higher walk in Zion".... So, its deceivers like you..... who DO.

You know the Truth, and it has "set you free". That is the "simplicity that is IN Christ". Its to know that HE is Salvation and Eternal Life and we are IN HIM = FOREVER, ..and there it is.... so simple.... yet so many will never SEE it. And they infect forums, and they ruin the faith of real...

Calvin is a liar and you are his disciple. So, what does that make you.. @brightfame52 Look, just read John 3:16 and 17. God gave Jesus to the WORLD... not to the "pre-destined".

Yes., exactly. When Jesus said..."I am THE Way, to the Father, and there is none other...its only BY ME".... He is talking about HIS CROSS and His Death on it. Without the Cross of Christ, there is no Salvation, no Eternal Life, no Redemption... because there would be no WAY that a sinner...

Its the Cross of Christ, alone. This is God's Redemption. John 14:6

@Rella """""It is said All original scripture is "theopneustos" God breathed. If that be so, why are so many interpretations of said scripture in opposition. (ref. Romans 13:1);:""""" Its "scholarship" that falsely proclaims that "only the originals are God-Breathed". And the reason they want...

That's Symbolic...... But this isn't..... 1 THESSALONIANS 2:18 Therefore we would have come unto you — even I, Paul, time and again — but SATAN hindered us. And this isn't symbolic. 2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if SATAN's = ministers also be transformed as the...

You see it. You SEE that God always SEES YOU as the "Born again" "New Creation" ... "In Christ". God always sees the born again as.. Heir of God Joint Heir with Jesus New Creation In Christ Seated in Heavenly Places One with God Redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb BORN AGAIN.. This is how God...

I don't. See, "form of a snake'" is "be ye wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove" and that is not to become a snakeman with feathers... @Hobie. That "snake" verse is referring to the deceiving power of Satan, as "Like a Snake"... Its symbolic. See, there is in the Bible what is known as...

A Homosexual is defined by homosexual sex acts committed as a sexual lifestyle. They are not an ethnic group. They are a same gender sexuality perversion, = practicing it. See, when the USA TX supreme court legalized SODOMY, in '2003 or 2004, they were legalizing Homo-Sexual SEX ACTS, so that...

JW's believe that the 144,000 have the indwelling Spirit. They see it like this.. LUKE 12:32: “Do not be afraid, >>>>> little flock <<<<<, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. So, this is typical "cult" conditioning that teaches a "use" vs the rest, mentality, that is...

Stop teaching John Calvin's lies. Here is the fact, for you to understand. The reason you are HERE, reading.....is because you have the Free Will to do so.. as you could be out chopping wood or using a GYM. Your FREE WILL, is = CHOICE. CHOICE< is Free Will. Figure this out, @Augustin56 ...

Start Here. Always.. Isaiah 53:5

The NT (Paul) Teaches that once the person is BORN AGAIN... they are "Pre-destined" to be "conformed into the image of Christ."" Calvin rewrote this verse as His Satanic..."Predested to be elected" or "predestined to be saved or lost" = before you are born.... And if you are one of Calvin's...