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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    That's not what Paul taught. 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The blindness in part doesn't refer to individuals being blind in part, whatever that would even mean. It refers to part of Israel being spiritually blind and part not being spiritually blind. Paul explained that here: Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    If you belong to Christ then you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you and helping you stay in the spiritual light by being able to discern what is true and what is false which then helps to keep you from being deceivd and falling into spiritual darkness. The key is to stay in tune with the Holy...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Born again believers are NOT appointed to God's wrath ( the great tribulation )

    To you, thinking with an open mind apparently equates to changing scripture to make it say what you want it to say. It clearly indicates that the Jesus coming as a thief, and the rapture, do not occur yet as of the timing of the sixth vial. You are trying to change that because you are too...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

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    He already kept that promise. Joshua 21:43 And the Lord gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. 44 And the Lord gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of...
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    Yes, that is how I understand it as well. Amazing to me how anyone can think Paul is intending to keep Jews and Gentiles separate in Romans 11 when he clearly talked about them being grafted in together. I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. All I can say is that, yes, it does talk...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

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    That's because the Gentiles being included in God's promises was intended to be a mystery in Old Testament times. But, it's not supposed to be a mystery anymore. The mystery has been revealed. Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

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    Yes, but he also talks about them being joined together as one, which is a concept taught elsewhere in scripture as well (Jew and Gentile believers being joined together as one body of Christ with no difference between the Jew and the Gentile). Why do you not say anything about that? Yes, He...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

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    Yes, really. Do you think I just say things like that and don't actually believe it? What you are really saying is that you think others don't believe that God keeps His promises as YOU see them. So what? Who cares? That doesn't mean that I and others don't believe that God will keep His...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

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    Do you have a problem with Gentile believers being fellow heirs of God's promises with those "certain people" that you're talking about? Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

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    You keep making baseless, false accusations towards others. You should be better than that. No one here believes that anything negates God's promises. Some of us just have a different understanding of some of God's promises than you do. What you think is promised only to those who descend from...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

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    That isn't what I was asking him. I'm asking him where he gets the idea from that the rapture is not referenced in the gospels. The text of 1 Thess 4:14-17 does not indicate any such thing, so that's why I'm wondering where he is getting that idea from. I think he may be getting that idea from...
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    Everyone here believes that. But, we don't all have the same understanding of all of His promises. I would never tell another believer that he or she doesn't believe that God will keep His promises. That's a serious accusation to make towards someone and is uncalled for. Just because someone may...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

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    You said "You obey the papal dogma, you are surrendering to papal authority.". You are saying that directly to me, so I thought you were talking about me. But, you were apparently speaking generally about anyone who obeys the papal dogma and not about me in particular? You should have made that...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Are you unable to respond to my question? Does Him being described as breaking (destroying) them with a rod of iron seem like a description of Him ruling over them the way you think He will? Are you afraid to address what the original prophecy actually says? Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    No, it isn't. You are missing the symbolism of Armageddon and you are just ignoring that John expanded the ones who will be killed beyond just the armies to include "all people, free and slave, great and small." (Rev 19:18). Can you explain why you are ignoring that? No, you are failing to...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    Which you don't even bother to show. Why should I believe you? Show me where scripture teaches that the soul and spirit die and are later resurrected.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Arguments and comments on the Post Trib position

    What is your understanding of what that entails? Scripture associates that with Jesus breaking/destroying them, not ruling over them the way you think He will. Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I...
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    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    Why do you say that no rapture verse fits it? All rapture verses fit it because the rapture occurs at the second coming of Christ and Revelation 19:11-21 is obviously about the second coming of Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    Pre-Trib Dispensationalism IS False

    This is totally incoherent gibberish. You make all these claims without any explanation for them. What is your basis for all these claims? What do you mean "We can't have acts 1 say what it says"? What do you mean "We can't have Matthew 24:30 say what it says"? How can we have any idea of what...