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If one is allowed to enter into the Kingdom of God on earth, he is indeed saved. He will also have to be following the rules of that Kingdom. Is it really difficult for you to say: "you're right"? Because I know that I am. Next time you read the N.T.,,,,,count.

The word repentance is not understood. Hence, all the misunderstandings.

It's OK if you don't care to discuss this... But I had done a study on it about two years ago and it happens to be true. Jesus spoke mainly about the Kingdom of God here on earth...which was what He intended to do. He also spoke of salvation as in John 3:3, 5 but not many times. It would be...

Amen. Reminds me of Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:29

Oh my. I almost missed this very long post. Please use the quotes feature or your replies will not be seen. Just press the "reply" button on the lower right hand corner of the post you wish to answer. Will get back to this in a little while. Must go now.

I didn't say Jesus did not speak about salvation. I said He spoke only 4 or 5 times about salvation but about 100 times about the Kingdom of God. The entire N.T. can be said to be about salvation. I'm saying that Jesus did not put forth the idea of "being saved" as we understand it today. If...

Calling someone a liar is admitting that the battle is lost. One might lie and commit a sin... but one is NOT a liar. Correct. We are children of God...not sinners. Galatians 3:26 Romans 8:14

Yes, I had said this in my first post here a couple of pages back. I had said that Mary was about 15/16 and Joseph might have been 25/30 or so. I just can't think about this too much. Truthfully it makes no difference to me although I know in catholic doctrine it does. I honestly don't...

Words are cheap. Post some scripture. Show me how we have no free will.

PART II No sir. John 15:5 means we can bear fruit only if we are IN CHRIST. CONTEXT. It is not speaking about coming to Christ,,,but that we need to come to Him to bear fruit. Again with John 15:16 Did you study only these verses? You serve a very weak God that can have His glory stolen from...

It matters not what the CHOICE is...it matters that the choice is AVAILABLE. This is an easy concept to grasp. Deuteronomy 8:19 19“It shall come about if you ever forget the LORD your God and go after other gods and serve them and worship them, I testify against you today that you will surely...

Hi SBG, I wrote the above...not Pearl. It is unbelievers who are denying God. Jesus also says this in Mathew 10:33 Mathew 10:32-33 32“Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. 33“But whoever denies Me before men, I will also...

What a nice post. And yes,,,faith is a noun but is also a verb... It denotes action. If we have faith, we obey that faith, we DO what it tells us to do. This would be like in Romans 1:5 -- we acquire the obedience OF FAITH. We have faith so we obey. As to staying there... when a person is...

Agreed. Sorry, I don't understand sometimes. This is why I like to ask question.... Agreed...I think. Of course we must be right with God in HIS eyes. John 5:28-29 Of course we're required to follow His commandments. But we're not in the O.T. anymore... Jesus has come. There is only...

Saved is definitely an idea of man. Salvatation is a biblical concept and one even the early church fathers spoke of. (pre 325AD). Imputed is an idea from scripture. Before Augustine, Adam's sin was NOT imputed to us..only its affects were now present in all of humanity. After Augustine, it...

You've spoken a gem of a concept: "People who were NOT slaves, want Reparations from People who were NOT slave owners."

Interesting post. I tend to agree with you. Jesus spoke to women when the men of that time did not. In fact, you must surely know that women were more respected at the time of Moses than at the time of Jesus. Jesus broke all the barriers and accepted women within His inner circle. But, my...

This is true. In the O.T. we depended on our own faith and our own works and our own righteousness. In the N.T. we depend on the righteousness of Jesus which is imputed to us. We are still expected to follow the 10 commandments and any other commandment that came from the mouth of Jesus. But...

I like all you've said but would like you to clarify what you mean by: Sin we can produce on our own,,,good we cannot. (highlighted by me above) Do you mean that persons CAN do good but it's of no value to God if they are not saved? I see unsaved persons doing good.

Who is ranting, but YOU? How about exegeting those verses you love? 1 Cor 1:16-31 2 Thes 2:13 Ephesians 1:19 Ephesians 2:4 Romans 10:17 Just repeating that "it all comes from God" is NOT exegesis. Mocking other members and bringing up verses proves NOTHING except that you don't care to exegete.