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Did not say that there were not valid texts and texts that made it into the first Bible. We do know that there were favored texts that did not make it into the Bible. And we do not know if these texts selected for the Bible ever resided in one place during the biblical era. Yeap there were...

No. I am saying that people do not float around.

All good but again all I wanted you to do was define your personal term. Yes but not in a phrase. The Greek word for genuine and true are mostly interchangeable so translations have that latitude to go either way. Ok, here is one for ya....and I ask also thee, genuine yoke-fellow, be assisting...

Again you are talking about theological terms. Do I believe I walked out of the tomb with Christ when He was resurrected...NO. If you are talking about being spiritually raised from Baptism...yes. Again raised is a relative theological term....no one floats out of baptism.

You so funny! I did not object to you using your personal term....genuine Christians...I said if you want to include it in our discussion you had to define it. Do any of the scriptures you listed here have the word elect in them? Reading through them I do not see the word elect, if I missed...

LOL belly roll! Evidence that the bible covers the first 65 years of Christian history? Or that God did not retire after the biblical era?

You and I can agree on the multitude of sins, corruption, and atrocities committed by the Catholic Church...History...right. But you cannot blame all the Pagan customs that exist in various Protestant religions. Jewish Christian sects were pretty much gone within the first century. No post...

I did not say that, the scriptures say that and I agree. Dead as a theological relative term. I was still alive and kicking. But before I was a Christian I was not a Christian...But I do not remember a time that I did not believe in Christ...4 years, riding my tricycle singing hymns

So again, define what you believe is a genuine Christian ... sola scriptoria, use the scriptures that you believe defines a genuine Christian.

God gave the Law to the Israelites. Moses was the custodian of the Law, which is why they are called the Mosaic Law. Now the Jews believed that all of the Laws were from God but Christ cast doubt on that with the discussion He had with the Jews on the topic of divorce. The 10 commandments that...

I know Hebrews well. What is your point?

I am not sure what you are referring to. If you are referring to the Catholic Church, it was not Pagan. And I am not refusing to discuss the Catholic Church. The point I make is that OSAS is not biblical and does not occur in history until modern times. Being inline with social and political...

We are Christians. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him

The bible does not say that, those items define a genuine Christians...because the phrase genuine Christians does not appear in the scriptures. Define your personal term and we can move on.

I agree that, that adjective is a personal term that you have yet to define. Again you keep referencing non biblical terms..."true Christian and genuine Christian are terms / phrases that do not appear in the scriptures. Define your personal terms and we can move on.

It means we are Christians.

for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,...agreed No. If I lived in the biblical era...maybe. As a Christian in modern times....the Law has nothing to do with me. I have never lived under the Law...again I am not a Jew and never have been. I have never broken the Law or the...

Sola scriptura ("by scripture alone" in English) is a theological doctrine held by some Protestant Christian denominations that posits the Christian scriptures as the sole infallible source of authority for Christian faith and practice. So you ask what does sola scriptura have to do with your...

Yes I know the significance of the crucifixion.

Not sure what you are trying to say. But yes we are raised with Christ when we are baptizes and this is backed up with scripture.