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The many counterfeits that exist will only snow those who are not familiar with the genuine, hence it is critical to be familiar with Gods words ie, ingest them, mull them over with prayerful attitude. I say God's words because they are creative power, 'they make wise the simple', they call into...

Out of context mate!

No brian, the shroud is a fake like the many other fakes associated with relics.

I'm sorry, your misapplication of words/descriptions is an attempt to diminish the topic.

Appreciate it I can't. Your attempts to explain the spiritual are from a humanistic view point. The two can not be reconciled.

hey hey!

You speak as those who are uninformed brian. If you spoke less and listened more you might learn what you don't understand.

Yes, I understand that from your perspective.

What is it that you are opposing DPM?

We can ask God for wisdom, for discernment, for patience and an instructed tongue

For sure, we can't put him in a box if by that you mean limit him to the parameters men have.

I'm persuaded the issues arise because the 'sign posts' have either been moved, were lost or were never there in peoples reality. Accurate and true 'sign posts' are critical because and using the building metaphor, if the foundation shifts or the bricks crumble it'll only be time before the...

not a bad quote......who is it attributed to?

You cannot answer a simple question on healthy relating yet you're willing to call Jesus a liar presuming you know better than he does....... hmmmmmm

DNB....the question is to you. It has not been posted so that I can answer my own question.

Only those walking around in the dark don't know where they're going. Light enables vision and hope.....if anything, it makes hope all the more tangible, it sees the goal even though it is 'as through a glass darkly' and strives with all the energy God inspires to win the race set before us...

Self sabotage Joseph, is not in your interest.

Joseph....the question 'healthy relating...what does it consist of?' is so straight forward there is little else I can say to make it clearer. It's asking you for your take on healthy relating ....relating to yourself, to others and to our Creator. If you do not understand what I mean you will...

Sounds decidedly like superstition to me Brian. Superstition is sitting on a chair that is unsound in the hope it won't collapse when sat on. Living faith on the other hand is sitting on a chair knowing it is structurally sound and will not collapse.

Joseph, I've found an online dictionary a helpful tool to consult whenever I don't know or am not sure what certain words mean. Even for words I do know the meaning of, it's an interesting exercise to see what the dictionary has to say.