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  1. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    I have NO problem with people who don't like the Catholic Church - as long as the reasons are legitimate. What I DO have a problem with are people like CoreIssue and others here who LIE about what the Catholic Church teaches and believes. So - if YOU don't like the Church - more power to you...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Divisions

    I never called you one name. NOT sure where you're getting that. As for "misunderstanding" Scripture - I never quoted any . . .
  3. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Yes - that's what people like out Catholic-hating friend CoreIssue would have you believe . . .
  4. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Nice try - but history tells us a different story, which I laid out in Post #29. The Canon was first officially declared at the Synod of Rome in 382 AD. It was officially reiterated several times, as I have shown you. Also - I never stated that it was the Church and the Church ALONE who...
  5. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Ummmmm, YOU claimed the were "Church Fathers". NONE of them were. Calvin was a Protestant Father - not a Church Father. As I educated you about Constantine - he wasn't even a Church member - let alone a Church "powerhouse" . . .
  6. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    The "majority" of WHOM? Can you show me some documented evidence for this - or did you just pull it out of your behind like you do most of your "facts"??
  7. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Neither Calvin nor Constantine nor Erasmus are considered Early Church Fathers. Where do you get your bizarre information?? Erasmus lived in the 15th century - Calvin in the 16th century. The last of the Church fathers were on the 7th century. Constantine wasn't even a member of the Church...
  8. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Hogwash. First of all - there were MANY Books that were considered Scripture before the Canon was declared by the Catholic Church - Apocrophal works. Books like the Shepherd of Hermas, the Gospel of Peter, The Epistles of Barnabas, etc. It was the authority of the Catholic Church guided by...
  9. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Then, please - enlighten me. Where DID the canon of Scripture come from, Einstein - if NOT from the Catholic Church being guided by the Holy Spirit?? Surely, you have more to offer than a moronic ad hominem attack . . .
  10. BreadOfLife

    Saint Peter - Much European talk relies on tradition

    YOUR original argument was simply about Peter's PRESENCE in Rome - nothing else. And it wasn't written by the "winners". These Early Church Fathers were being hunted, persecuted and martyred when they wrote these testimonies. So, again I ask - WHY would you disregard this history when you...
  11. BreadOfLife

    Divisions

    Another ignorant diatribe brought to you by our historically-bankrupt friend, Taken. YIKES . . . EVERYTHING that is taught in these "prepared books", as YOU call them, is verified by Scripture. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is THE "prepared book" that our children learn from has...
  12. BreadOfLife

    BAPTISM

    This is a REALLY ignorant response. James was writing to Jewish CHRISTIANS who were NO LONGER under the Law but under the grace of God through Jesus Christ. There is NOT a "different" set of rules for Jewish Christians than there are for Gentile Christians. We are all CHRISTIANS. The things...
  13. BreadOfLife

    Saint Peter - Much European talk relies on tradition

    It's not only Tradition - it's history. YOU believe in the "facts" of history because of the written testimonies of the contemporaries of the time - yet you dismiss the SAME types of evidence when it comes to CHURCH history. WHY is that?? For example - How do YOU know that there was a Julius...
  14. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Nonsense. Not only are all of the same elements of the armor mentioned on BOTH passages - your interpretation of them is what is flawed - NOT what is written. BOTH passages are depicting a battle against evil. - We have the "Breastplate of righteousness" in both passages. - The "Shield of...
  15. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Agreed. I understand differences of belief and opinion - but I completely reject his brand of flat-out lies and deceit.
  16. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Any "Bible believing" Christian should know that the canon of the Bible came from the Catholic Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (John 16:12-15).
  17. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Yes, CARM.org - a bastion of anti-Catholic hatred. PERFECT source for all of your ignorant anti-Catholic needs . . .
  18. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Ignorant rubbish. As I indicated before, the Jewish Canon before and during the 1st century was OPEN - and there is nothing you can dpo to change that fact. Explain to me why we see approximately 200 references from the Deuterocanonical Books on the pages of the NT. For example: - Eph. 6:13-17...
  19. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    Another little historical factoid about our friend Rabbi Akiba. Around the time of the 2nd Jewish Revolt in the 2nd century - he claimed that a man named Simon Bar Kokhba was the real messiah. He turned out to be a false messiah and Akeebah was a false prophet. So, Protestants get their OT...
  20. BreadOfLife

    There is more than one set of apocryphas.

    And I NEVER claimed that the Deuterocanonical Books were in the Hebrew Bible. I said that they were part of the SEPTUAGINT, which was part of the OPEN Jewish Canon of the 1st century. It was not closed until LONG AFTER the Jesus ascended to the Father and the Temple was destroyed. They were...