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  1. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Yes. 100% based on humanist principles. 100% void of Christianity, which was outlawed. You cannot invoke a guiding principle only to complete abandon it when it is shown to fail - but only in practice, not theory. I like humanism, in theory. In practice, look the the Soviets river of blood.
  2. Wrangler

    The First Condition of salvation

    A reply totally unresponsive to my post.
  3. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    ROFLMAO. Every kid in American learns about atoms. Next, you'll be telling me water or bread are esoteric terms AND by invoking such esoteric terms, it automatically invalidates any argument that uses them. :phew::spring::Laughingoutloud:
  4. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    An alternative theory speculated to exist is automatically given supremacy, making my point moot?! Wow. That's a mighty low standard of proof you allow for the alternative hypothesis. You cannot believe what you write has any intellectual integrity.
  5. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Not at all. God has transformed billions of lives. It does not depend on me alone or you alone. IF it did it would be subjective evidence. It is funny to see how you must move the goal post with nearly every reply. Putting aside the evidence of people, the objective evidence of God is seen in...
  6. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    LOL. Guess what? Every witness ever is biased. Their testimony helps one side and hurts another side. It is ONLY when the evidence produces a bias, might a wise judgment be reached.
  7. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Not at all. Just chopping down one fallacy at a time. God exists and there is mountains of evidence, everywhere you look BUT you must choose to ask, see and knock. It takes such humility to get off God's throne and let him sit there as lord of your life.
  8. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    I once that as you do. Evidence you worship a false IDOL is those societies that were based on humanist ideologies no longer exist. See the Soviet Union. A perfect demonstration of humanist principles - outlawing God - rightfully called The Evil Empire by President Ronald Reagan. It is...
  9. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Again, you are drowning in objective evidence of God. Consider the fine tuning constants. For instance, the energy of atoms should have dropped off to zero long ago, making life impossible. Instead the energy dropped perfectly to ~1/137, which is found everywhere and is dimensionless. Not...
  10. Wrangler

    Slaying Sacred Cows-- examining pet beliefs

    It’s not scientific but logic, the application of reason. What’s changed is people are now indoctrinated, not educated. Indoctrination starts with the conclusion, and is closed to any path leading away from the conclusion. Education starts with the reasoning process, and is open to any...
  11. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Well, we disagree on who is deceiving themselves about what. You want to be, both, the prosecutor AND the jury. Any objective person would consider the prosecutions case a joke if their position was the Defendant does not exist but his lawyer parades billions of Witnesses who Testify the...
  12. Wrangler

    Sexist Laws Favoring Women

    I know. I know that you’ve ignored the sexism of the Scotland Bill. I wonder if feminists would be equally silent about a bill that targeted women to go to jail for 7 years if they said anything men do not like but men would be exempt from punishment under the law?
  13. Wrangler

    Sexist Laws Favoring Women

    Not ‘open to both men and women without any issue’ is the point of the OP.
  14. Wrangler

    Sexist Laws Favoring Women

    Jordan Peterson tackles this beautifully. Principles to organize society ought to take human nature into account and 5 decades of woman having equal opportunity show that women make different choices than men. It is a false assertion that given the same opportunity, men and women will make the...
  15. Wrangler

    Arminianism, Calvinism, or Universal Restoration?

    No. I am using a debate tactic in using my opponents terms & dichotomies against him. He called God a tyrant and I went with it. In short, his argument was an Appeal to Ad Homenim; to assume the power to dictate terms to our Creator, that IF we do not concede this power to him, THEN God is a...
  16. Wrangler

    Sexist Laws Favoring Women

    Striving for balance - or equality - is the ideology of the damned. One does not balance light with dark, good with evil, right with wrong, justice with injustice, truth with lies. One casts out one at the exclusive embrace of the other.
  17. Wrangler

    Sexist Laws Favoring Women

    Many factors. In short, it is the natural cycle of human societies. See The Fate of Empires by Sir John Glub. See The Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler. See Tytler Cycle of Freedom. Societies tend to begin with a certain Spirit that propels them to prosperity. Once, prosperous, they...