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  1. Wrangler

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    But only for a season. From today’s sermon. Hebrews 6:1 So let us stop going over the basic teachings about Christ again and again.
  2. Wrangler

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    The Apostles did not have the Bible and they turned out alright.
  3. Wrangler

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I’m taking a class through my church entitled, 3 Strands. While it delves into the Bible, it simultaneously de-emphasizes the Bible’s importance; explicitly pointing out that we are not saved by the Bible but the resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe Bible IDOLATRY is a risk when we...
  4. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    No sir. Pretending it is a boast in earning it is not what this conversation hinges on. It hinges on work we must do. Why do you insist on contradicting yourself? Why do you say it is nothing we do AND all we have to do is X? One has to do something or they don’t,
  5. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    Right, code word ‘works’ (plural) but the faith that is how we are saved requires work. Sad to see you sticking to your code words and ignore common usage, especially considering the work of accepting grace is a requirement of what we must do to be saved OR …. wait for it … universalism would...
  6. Wrangler

    Do most Christians here really support Russia invading Ukraine?

    Yes. God rules by his sovereign will. We are all his slaves - whether we admit it or not. Your query is independent of the conflict of globalist expansion into Russian borders.
  7. Wrangler

    Sources say Trump could be arrested as early as next week

    I like how Elon Musk - who is anti-Trump - said that if they do this, Trump will win in a land slide. The Left are apoplectic in the power of the people, investing in a nationalist against the NWO they crave.
  8. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    There you go again, trying to confuse what work means. This work is the fire wall for why not everyone is saved; the do not want to do the work necessary to be saved. They refuse to do the work - of working out their own salvation with fear and trembling. Denying this essential work - of...
  9. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    And that is untrue OR ... wait for it ... universalism would be correct doctrine. We still have the work, the internal action, to humble ourselves in needing a lord and savior, to accept the gift IF we are to benefit 1 iota from all the work Christ did. If Christ did all the work for all the...
  10. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    Right, it's work in the general sense. I've said numerous times that it is not a work in the Biblical sense. This does not mean it is not work, in the general sense. The use of the word "a" or not ought to keep it straight for you. Silly to get confused by your own use of code words.
  11. Wrangler

    Do most Christians here really support Russia invading Ukraine?

    Putin is a friend to Christianity even though a tyrant. Different from NWO folks.
  12. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    Gladly! As soon as you stop talking in code. Except for all the work, no work is required for salvation. Huh? People say, ‘I have to go to work’’ and everyone knows this means they have TO DO something. People don’t say, ‘I have to go to a work.’ That is you gnostic language of secret meaning...
  13. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    Right, it is work, which is how you know it is not ‘a’ work.
  14. Wrangler

    First Work of Faith: Confessing Jesus Christ

    And THAT is the work we are talking about.
  15. Wrangler

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    All language terms are invented by men. The question in this thread is: Do you recognize IDOLATRY, in general? And do you recognize the IDOLATRY made of the Bible?
  16. Wrangler

    Do most Christians here really support Russia invading Ukraine?

    Agreed. Among 2 evils, the NEW WORLD ORDER, spearheaded by Ukraine, and the Christian nation of Russia oligarchy, the Russians are the lesser evil.
  17. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    You are drowning in evidence. Appeal to Authority. You are comparing Christians who actually experienced the supernatural in their life as less than what others speculate could be with 0 proof to believe it. Scientists are NOT the authority regarding God.
  18. Wrangler

    If atheists get accused of taking verses out of context, how do we know fundamentalists making those accusations aren’t doing the same as well?

    Strawman. Comparing AS EQUAL a work of fiction with history is in bad form. Also, besides the Patriarchs’s, billions of Christians testify to the revelation of God in our lives, including me. We are the proof that you irrationally ignore.
  19. Wrangler

    Reasons Jews Reject Jesus

    How so? Strawman. I am an Apologist, after all, posting in the Apologetics thread. I am reminded of the quip by Luther at his trial, Here I stand. I can do no other. Not sure how you expect entrenched debates in your build bridging metaphor to go? I can and do concede points irrelevant to...