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The bible says "believe and you will be saved"...not...."believe and then consider yourself saved". The bible is not a self help book. For example...buses go to bus stops. We read that going to a bus stop causes us to be on the bus. But should we consider ourselves on the bus by just standing...

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Amen!! The word is the map and the Spirit is the compass. Unless we have both we get seriously lost.

Why are you mixing faith with works!!!! :) LOL

Seeking the Lord is not the same as name it and claim it. Where in the bible does it say that those who claim something will then have it? You'd think the way Jesus speaks of those practicioners of said method (Pharisees) would warn people away from presumptions like these. The truth is that we...

The last scripture you posted destroys your argument. We WILL work either death or life....this is to be hot or cold. The lukewarm claim to be Christians but have no good works. There is no spiritual life in them...they just claim certain scriptures and say they are saved. You will of course...

Where do you get this idea? You are formulating your own reality based on what you understand. Ironically the lukewarm reveal a lack of good works. They feel they are saved to look pretty or something. It is unfortunate that you react to a word without understanding the spiritual context. We are...

This has nothing to do with reality. It is not like God hears us if we get the pronunciation of His name right. We don't apply Jesus' blood to ourselves. God does this. The blood of Christ is for the whole world. By taking this sacrifice for ourselves we become guilty of presumption...claiming...

Have you ever read the book of James? We are saved in order to do the works that are from above. How can you miss the purpose od something and still claim any understanding? The purpose of a car is for transportation...not say... a paperweight. Simple enough! So grace is meant to do the works...

The Tradition is to follow the Spirit and submit our ways to God to be led by Him.

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One day a week worship is an OT concept. We are to walk in the Spirit at all times every day. That is our worship. Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. This should be compared to those who seek to worship in a physical way one day a...

There is a present idolatry of Jesus and the bible...we call this churchianity. This is not to be confused with true Christianity...which is in the power of the Spirit. This is the testimony of the bible.

We are saved in order to do the works of God not men. You have to see that God has a purpose that isn't a human one. Men are trying to wrestle away God's purpose for themselves...the same way they are trying to build a church for Him...in their own understanding. So we are created to DO the...

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You were doing so well until this... It has everything to do with our deeds. We will be judged by what we do as well as what we have said. The gospel speaks of a real power to overcome in this world. Abiding in Christ causes us to do the works of Christ.

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Rather than progress since the day of Pentecost I fear we have taken a very long wrong turn. Unity is beyond us and only possible when we are truly abiding in Christ. But since we have been programmed to think we already ARE in Christ (without yet being so) then we will not seek any further.

I use the same bible as you...and the same verses. But it is the meaning we attach to them that we diverge on. Dead means dead...you are an empty shell now ready to receive a new strength; a strength from above. We only release the life in us when our old lives are brought to nothing. This is...

I would ask why the word is made to say something far different than what is really saying! The gospel is not just in word but in power. So to leave the bible as a study of words only is to misunderstand the bible. We will not be judged by how much we have read or studied the bible...but on what...