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lol the only way to believe in eternal INSECURITY, is to take parts of scripture and interpret to meet your needs. and reject or belittle the passages which show we are secure in Christ. we will never fall back. We have his spirit as a pledge, We have eternal (not conditional) life. You...

not going to argue. i will go with what I read in scripture.

I need to keep track of what thread i am in, I am sorry, seems we got off topic.

amen, John said they have never seen or known God (1john) lol. They were never in right standing with God.. John says they have never seen or known him SMH

I was dead in tresspasses and sin. I was his enemy.. he calls everyone. everyone's name is in the book, it is blotted out if you die without receiving him (many are called few are chosen) Yes, Love your enemy, How else are we supposed to bring them to Christ? It does harmonize

You can ignore me all you want. (actually thank you. It is good that I make you think so much you have to ignore me) Don;t be a hypocrite and attack me for doing something you yourself are doing..

it is works if you DO IT to STAY SAVED. Next!!!! I keep his commands BECAUSE I am born again, made a new creature, attached to the vine. not in order to keep it. or stay attached. I am sorry you do not understand the difference between a gift and a reward

Good day sir I have answered your question so many times I have lost count the passage is about bearing fruit, about receiving the resources to do the work of God, and about having the Joy of God in our lives. A vine dresser tends to the vine, The vine-dresser prunes the vine so the living...

John 15: 15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He Lifts up; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Abide in Me, and I...

Maybe read vs 1 - 4. that is the context of the passage. What does he do to get people to bear fruit? He lifts them up and he prunes them.. do you know anything about agriculture and raising fruits of the vine?

sorry my friend If you CAN draw back, you have to continue under your own power. drawing away takes no work, correct. You draw back by STOPPING WORK. Plus like Paul said in Romans 4. If Abraham was found by works he has something to boast about. but not before God. You want to boast in your...

No, But my comment about paul was from the time he walked to damascus until the time he spoke of wanting to do good. but could not do good. if Paul could not make it, why would I think I could

Actually I did I put Jesus in context. to explain what he meant Without me YOU CAN DO NOTHING. That is what he meant, He was talking about bearing fruit (the context of the whole passage) that is what he meant. If your looking for me to say Jesus meant if we do not produce fruit we will...

Do you understand what Paul said here?? Where did paul mention he was walking to Damascus in romans 7?

5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. This is about...

why do you say this?

which scripture would that be? Hebrews 10:39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul. Philippians 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ...

You can;t earn eternal life by doing these things It is a GIFT OF GOD. paid for by the BLOOD OF HIS SON

Amen Even when we are faithless, he is faithful. he can not deny himself.

Eternal life is a gift. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. John said we can know we have it 1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has...