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I have been saved from the penalty of sin - Justification I am being saved from the power of sin - Sanctification I will be saved from the ability to sin. - Glorification Learn the difference..

The bad parts of us are burned in the fire.. Salvation is a gift. Not a reward. so much for recieving a gift.. when you have to earn it. Salvation is not a down payment for you to do good works, and if you do you can keep it. It is the gift of God who gives life to people who can not earn...

It does nto say they were blotted out it says they were NEVER OF US. So you are picking and choosing, to add to the word of God.. if it does not fit your narrative, you add things not written..

Yes, But this is not a means to salvation. It is a result f salvation

they can not comprehend Gods standard. The lower the standard of the law.. let alone Gods perfect standard

Yet you are the one who has nothing to say but strawmen like this. When you have some real meat to discuss. come see me

the op is not inspired by the word of God. SO you ignore people who disagree with you? Way to go..

For by grace we have been saved through faith and not of ourselves. Not of works Not by works of righteousness which we have done but by his mercy, he saved us There are no works which saved. Well there is one. The work of Christ.

Salvation is not about fruit bearing. That does not save us or determine our salvation Its about being born again.

I know alot of people want to insert gnosticism into johns writing. This may be true. But I think we can take that too far. John said they, who are they.. 1. They departed from us 2. They deny Christ. now if these are Gnostics. or just everyday people who came to the meetings. I do not think...

Well God certainly did not tell you to change the meaning of words and make it appear he said somethign he did nto say Actually. That is the basis of my foundation. he is the same, The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable. But you say otherwise. It does nto say this at all. Your reading...

Amen, You do not pull things out of a text that are not there..

Where do you come up with this stuff? Do you make it up. Or were you taught this? So you’re saying he said they were NEVER OF US. (Not only once but twice) But he did not really mean it, we are to somehow twist what John said, and understand it really means that it was if they were never of...

Amen the worse thing that brought to the gospel. And which sadly passed to many of her offspring, is the thought that salvation was a process. It was not a gift per se that was given to you and all you had to do was recieve it. You had to receive it through what they call “works of faith” or...

Yes, He is speaking to a group of people not induviduals. He spoke of them, as blind in part, and as natural branch which was cut off. He spoke of Gentiles as unnatural branch and we were grafted in and he told us not to be so proud. Because we some how made it, and Israel lost it. And he...

Yet they want to make it about us. Not about them. The hatred of the jew even in the church blows my mind.. Even if they were not chosen for a purpose. God tells us to love everyone..

John makes this clear in his first epistle they went out from us, but they were never of us, for if they were truly of us, they never would have departed. But they departed to show they were never of us.

I can think of a few reasons, 1. We don’t actually teach it, but in places like this we have to discuss it because of the many who think savation can be given back or lost. 2. In a discipleship setting, We need to discuss it because the Bible says it is the root, or the hope that is in us, and...

James is what I am discussing,

The word says confess our sins to each other. I just go by what the word says