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  1. Wrangler

    Sharing God's words with fellow Christians is pointless

    I must object. The problem is the first part, I am not bothered by who disagrees with me. Not true in practice in many cases. In fact, many take the Great Commission to mean get heathens to agree with them. My pastor gave a sermon last year introducing the notion of an adversarial witness. If...
  2. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    I don't think anyone has claimed conspiracy. It's more like being outside the Matrix and recognizing the effect of indoctrination. Are you a Star Trek TNG fan? There was an episode were Captain Picard was being tortured by an alien species. The interrogator wanted him to say there were 5 lights...
  3. Wrangler

    Romans 6:22

    How do you reconcile these verses with your brand of OSAS? And you are included among those Gentiles who have been called to belong to Jesus Christ ... Rom 1:6 But because you are stubborn and refuse to turn from your sin, you are storing up terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger...
  4. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    The definite article "the" implies JW do not agree with all translators or all translations. That's not accurate either. There are certain verses in particular that some - even many - translations get wrong. I started a rare thread about the original Greek Houtas, which means that - not he. As...
  5. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    I don't think that is fair. Translators can get it wrong. That doesn't mean any of us lack respect for the Bible.
  6. Wrangler

    Please will you pray for my son.

    My heartfelt prayers to you and yours @Pearl
  7. Wrangler

    I developed another health problem

    I’m so sorry for your condition. I’ll pray and hope you act on the wisdom @Behold shared.
  8. Wrangler

    Sharing God's words with fellow Christians is pointless

    This is true on all subjects, not just religion. Many times I notice in a conversation, someone does not have all their facts. This could be me. The important thing is the big picture, which includes the relationship. There is no benefit to quibble over trivial matters. Is the verse in 1...
  9. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    While simultaneously ignoring completely 2 categories of Scripture far more reliable than vague and ambiguous passages: Explicit verses going against the doctrine, e.g., For us, there is one God the Father. Implied verses that go against their doctrine, e.g., all those that juxtapose Jesus...
  10. Wrangler

    Sharing God's words with fellow Christians is pointless

    Great observation. I don’t walk on egg shells. Touchy is a short hand for touched in the head, which is a nice way of saying someone is crazy. Crazy is a term that lacks technical specificity but we all know what it generally means. In our feminized society, touchy is more acceptable since...
  11. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    We all are who we are. Using capitalization does not change the fact that ‘I am’ or ‘I AM’ only refers to a general state of being (exist) and not to a particular being as you want to read into the text. That’s Eisegesis and perhaps the ultimate form of it. I already used multiple examples...
  12. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    Moving the goal posts. 1st it was a name. Now it is a claim of who he is - that is not explicitly stated. "I am" is not a specific statement of who one is but a general statement of existence. Who is ready for more wine? I am. Who can Identify the body? I am going to identify the body. Who's has...
  13. Wrangler

    The Asbury ‘Surprising Work of God’

    My pastor referenced this in Sunday’s sermon
  14. Wrangler

    Romans 6:22

    It's not about understanding but not agreeing with the false doctrine of OSAS.
  15. Wrangler

    How was Paul : the chief of Sinners....the ULTIMATE Sinner?

    More meatless posts. Is universalism correct doctrine?
  16. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    The same with Paul. In another thread, it was discussed that Paul said I am the chief sinner. He was not claiming to be a deity.
  17. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    Putting that aside, @Peterlag pointed out that God never claimed his name was I AM. He states his name in v15,
  18. Wrangler

    A serious questions for the Jehovah's Witnesses on these threads.

    Hmmm. More like disagreement. 1 Tim 2:5-6 and Mark 1:1 make it perfectly clear who Jesus is; the long awaited Anointed by God who is our only mediator to God. He is the Christ, which is Greek for Messiah, which means anointed by God. He is the suffering servant of Isaiah whose suffering would...
  19. Wrangler

    How was Paul : the chief of Sinners....the ULTIMATE Sinner?

    No. We simply disagree on who the finished work of Christ applies to. If your doctrine were correct, universalism would be correct doctrine.