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Of course I reject the whole Calvinist thing.... Whether it be the elect before the foundation of the world which mean no good you do is of your accord. Or damned before the foundations of the world where you are punished for something that God has taken ownership for. Simply foolishness. The...

There comes a time for shortwave radios and CB's lol lol Back in the day....1970's the news was telling us that most people liked the 55 mph speed limit...to date...I have never met one. As it is now it is hard to trust anything you hear about Covid or the Vaccines. We are told that Biden's...

You do know that you are sitting in a thread entitled "Human freewill the devil's greatest trick. So are you saying you disagree with that? That God only uses predestination to get people to Heaven? The Bible says the word predestination but does not give a description of it....so that means...

Moral wisdom prevails. This is true. You can be an insane genius or a smart evildoer, morals are the ingredient to wisdom....but none of these will be eternal unless you believe on the Saviour.

Depending on how you interpret Job it is a story with a morale. Before a time that Satan was not welcome in the Holy Court of God. You and any one else today could be obedient to the sermon of the mount and find yourself in Hell. Salvation is not about just being a good person. There will be...

This brings up a topic that is many times over looked. Of course the words spoken by Christ in this sermon will always be valid. But these word are not describing "The Way" to salvation. Much like the sermon about the sheep and the goats....good words to follow...with one difference. A way for...

Do you have your own brand of predestinationism? Are you going to name it after yourself? And the people here are not making a mistake I can give you an avalanche of definitions for predestinationism. But if your definition is different than how it is commonly defined....give it a go.

Of course it is not in the scriptures! The whole idea is somewhere between absurd and satanic. No God is not responsible for sin because He does not predestinate reality at all. No He does not damn people either because he does not predestinate choice. So I am so happy that you have given up...

Now God knows how the natural progression of things are going to turn out....and that is fine. And if He does not like it, He can work with people...then He can also use His power of predestination to change some things. Was David an example of God working with someone or was it predestination...

Answer to what? The Bible is all about interpretation, you and others like you chose to have God responsible for all the evils of the world and that it is His choice to do the greatest of evils and cruelty and damn those that aren't even born yet. You march to the devil's drums.

Yeap it is not extreme to label God with all, all of the characteristic of Satan. But not Satan just in cahoots with him. Guaranteeing Satan a quota...the victims! No hope....no escape....Damned before creation....The world...sin pushed on it by God Himself. I call it extreme blasphemy.

Do you need a circle for that talk... The intent to deceive is shown in this type of talk. You are not fooling nobody.

So there is only a saved side to your belief of predestination? You believe God only predestines people to heaven? That is great! Sign me up...

What is funny, is that you think people do not know about you....

Not to surprising..

Behold, I am only going to say this 150 times! It all double talk! It is wrong and evil thinking. Elect...ahhh! Do you think you are special from among Christian? If God knew how it was all going to turn out and made no changes, then it is not predestination. No need to predestinate. This...

Ya that ain't going to work....lol

In the military when you are being court martialed you do not get sentenced....you are awarded prison because you earned it. You are putting a lot of effort into trying to prove God is Satan or a monster. You will deserve what you get...you worked for it.

This what you said at the beginning of your thread. This one person on another website keeps spreading rumors about me!! :mad: She says that me and this other member are cheating on our significant other because we're both having an affair and we're just friends for crying out loud!! Geesh does...