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What God has done for us in Jesus is a different work to what he is doing in us by his Spirit. These are distinctly different activities yet related. To confuse these is to embark on a path of misunderstanding, particularly the expression 'it is finished'. This misunderstanding bears the fruit...

Your question is noteworthy in this respect, you perceive me to have a problem because I point out your misapplied use of scripture. I would suggest the problem is yours.

Watch those slippery prophets. Their yada yada is evidence of their falsity. You know the score with your sin. Forget the ton of words, they are just a smoke screen.

This is too slippery Stranger. And where does the slip end up?....justifying the lack of integrity. Yes, treat God's word as a light thing and it has its consequences, just like Eve in Eden!

Get rid of the computer if it's the portal. ....remember Judas??....he sought repentance but couldn't find it. Why couldn't he find it? because he cared more for getting away with his sin than he did hating it. Peter on the other hand betrayed Jesus and it broke him. Yes, we need to be broken...

do you hate the sin or do you just hate its consequences Endzone?

I don't know but I trust his judgement. I hope to be one of the many on the sea of glass praising God for his just and righteous judgements. Soooo, that must mean at some stage we will have insight into all those things that perplex us now. God will not keep hidden from us any of what we now...

What is it that you don't like about works?

Tell us what's happening in your search Michael

The fancy footwork you engage mjrhealth, avoids answering the questions asked. You bend your energy to justify yourself and your lawless attitude. You want scriptures...what for? I doubt that even if I gave a truck load of them it wouldn't make any difference. Brakelite's topic here is right on...

You would make unverifiable statements then dodge and weave and attempt to shift the focus. I'm sorry, your approach does not resonate with the spirit of Jesus.

What is your point in the above post mjrhealth? ....and by the way, does giving a new commandment nullify previous commandments?...it seems you think so. Perhaps you could tell us what it is you don't like about God's commandments that makes you so opposed to them??

Oh really !! I would challenge you to verify your statement!

It is clearly obvious you do not understand what you are saying.....In one statement you imply upholding the law is opposed to Jesus and the next statement you say that the commandments of men are taught. I'm wondering if you understand the difference? I would say you are as confused as our...

Do you realise that!!!! Let me ask you a question CoreIssue.... how is it that on such a small thing you can't get that right??

Seeing CoreIssue and some others have issue with SDA, I wonder whether it has been considered if a difference exists between the Adventist Movement and the Adventist Church?

hmmmm, I see your justification is determined by the years you have studied and what you have accepted and rejected years ago. Hmmmm, interesting base to determine your conclusions!

Yes, I read your reply to brakelite. Give it more consideration Naomi....If Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath and he was referring to the seventh day there is no justifiable reason to call the first day of the week 'The Lord's Day' Meeting on the first day of the week also does not...

With respect, but where did the idea come from that 'The Lords Day' is the first day of the week?

If one can lump a person under a title the assumption is that one does not need to question or think further on the matter. It's a method used for centuries by all who who find the straight testimony hard to bear.