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LOL at you telling someone else to debate when you repeatedly refuse to do so. Debate does not consist of just making claims and giving one liners without any exegesis or any explanations to back up your claims.

You misunderstood me. This is what I meant. I wasn't saying you said a beast is always and only ever referred to as a king. I'm saying you said that a beast can sometimes only refer to a king (or a kingdom or both) and I'm disagreeing with that and saying that a prophet beast always refers to a...

I thought you agreed with me that Revelation 20:6 indicates that one must have part in the first resurrection in order to avoid the second death. I guess not.

And kingdoms, which is what the mountains represent. And I see you understand that as well. Yet, the prophecies do refer to those. The Babylonian empire is obviously referred to in Daniel. As well as the Media-Persian and Greek empires. Why ignore that? Daniel 8:20 The two-horned ram that you...

No. The Greek word translated as "lived" is "zao" and that is not a word used to describe being brought back to life. It is a word used to describe people being alive and living their lives. The word "anazao" is used to describe the rest of the dead and that word is used to describe people being...

You're all talk. You're not looking at 1 Cor 15:42 in context. I invite you to do so and you don't bother. That says it all. The context of 1 Cor 15:42 is seen in verses 43 and 44. Why would you deny that? Paul said that what is sown in incorruption, dishonor and weakness is a natural body. You...

Look at verse 3. Paul said the falling away had to occur before His coming and our being gathered to Him, so how could he have been referring to the rapture? The rapture couldn't occur first before...the rapture. But, it's about a departure from the truth, not a departure from one place to...

I didn't say that, but that does not mean our soul is literally dead and lifeless in the same way our bodies are literally dead and lifeless when we physically die. That's a false equivalence. And the context of 1 Cor 15 is very clearly about the body and not the soul. You can deny that all you...

They always represent both. Kings and kingdoms go hand in hand. You don't have one without the other. It's not an individual. Your claim that a prophetic beast can only refer to a king is false. No king is without a kingdom.

You ignore the context of that verse. Souls don't need to be resurrected. That's ridiculous. Our souls don't die, our bodies do. Follow what Paul is saying carefully here. Don't try to interpret verse 42 in isolation, which is unwise. 1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the...

The problem with this is that Paul indicates that the falling away (apostasia) occurs first before Christ's coming and our being gathered to Him. So, if the apostasia referred to the rapture then Paul would be saying the rapture has to occur first before the rapture, which obviously doesn't make...

I'm not sure why I bother with you. All you do is give your understanding of things, but you don't specifically address what others say at all. So, why should I specifically address what you're saying? I don't think I'll bother this time since it's obviously a waste of time since you won't...

I hope you're not saying this is all you have to support your view? If so, I don't find it very convincing since Matthew 24 does not teach pre-trib. Matthew 24:29-31 alone disproves that. So, are you planning to show how exactly you think Matthew 24 supports pre-trib? I'm not just going to take...

That isn't what I said, so why are you acting as if I said that? Don't just say things like this. Prove it. You apparently think the last trumpet sounds over and over again after each believer dies? Or what? Don't make claims that you can't back up. Your opinions on their own mean nothing...

I actually agree in a sense, but you're missing that Satan's kingdom of the world has taken on different forms over the years. That's what the heads of the beast represent. It says five of the heads were fallen, one was in power at the time and the other had not come yet (Revelation 17:10) as of...

No, I don't mind. I have no certain expectations of how long it should take for someone to respond, if they decide to respond at all. Thanks.

You're missing the parallels in the book of Revelation. There is no reason to think that the wrath of the Lamb will take a whole year to complete. The 7th seal does not contain the 7 trumpets like you believe and the 7 vials don't all follow the 7th trumpet like you believe. 2 Thessalonians 1:7...

1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. It says we will all be changed...

You're saying "I agree" in response to my question "Do you believe that someone has to have part in the first resurrection in order for it to be true that "the second death hath no power" over them?". So, since you believe that the first resurrection refers specifically to a resurrection of...

Kingdoms, of course, have kings or else they wouldn't be kingdoms. But, my point, which maybe I didn't make completely clear, is that prophetic beasts do not just represent individuals, but also kingdoms. But, you try to always refer to some beast-king as if the beast itself is only a king, but...