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The very first Bible lesson on the 'beast' symbol applied to something other than a literal animal of the field... Gen 3:1-5 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, "Yea, hath God said, 'Ye shall not eat of every...

[/color] When you say that spiritual temple of Eph.2 CAN BE corrupted (which you have said), that is not possible. The rebellious are 'cut off' from that spiritual temple with Christ as its Chief Cornerstone. Thus the "temple" Paul mentions in 2 Thess.2:4 about the "man of sin" coming to sit...

The foolish mind is on you, because that's not how the Pre-trib Rapture School teaches those Luke 17 verses! They teach instead, that the one being removed... is by Christ Jesus to Heaven, to be where He is!

Amillenialists, Pre-millenialists, Post-millenialists, ... meet a Historicist by the above remarks. Historicism pretty much denies a specific Tribulation period for the end of this world just prior to Christ's second coming. It aligns a lot with Preterist doctrines. The theological...

You've failed to grasp what the tribulation is about, with the "plagues" of Rev.16:9 Rev 16:8-9 8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. 9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which...

[/color] What? Have I now got to try and explain to you how the time of Christ's second coming involves usage of the word 'day', and how Peter described how long a 'day' can mean to God? How is it, you didn't catch the Gen.1:5 to a 'day' is per God's timeline for a day, since He had not yet...

To reject scattered Israel of the ten tribes, which were never known as Jews, is not an example of blessing the people of Israel. God's Word is solid about the scattering of the ten tribes of the "house of Israel", and as being the majority of His people Israel, since they made up 10 out of 12...

The "lively stones" are part of Christ's SPIRITUAL temple, UNLESS... they rebel against Him and fall away to worship another in His Place! Then what do you think happens to those apostate believers who fall away from Christ Jesus and His Word? They are CUT OFF FROM HIS SPIRITUAL TEMPLE! And...

The idea of a 'brute beast' nature applied to the "workers of iniquity" is an early Old Testament revealtion, which is where... the 'beast' symbol in Revelation orginates! 2 Pet 2:10-15 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government...

So the 2 Thess.2:3-4 Scripture warning of "that Wicked" coming to sit in the temple of God, exalting himself above all that is called God or that is worship, is telling a lie? And the Rev.13:11-17 Scripture about a specific false one on earth working great signs, wonders, and miracles is a lie...

You are... adding to that Scripture an idea of corruption which is not any part of that 1 Peter 2:5 Scripture.

[/color] Since the Rev.13:11-17 Scripture is about a specific entity, a person, even per the English grammar, to say it is not is to tell a lie. And since that Scripture distinguishes that specific person separate from the "first beast" which is a kingdom per Rev.13:1-2, that is also what makes...

It all began when I clearly expouded Bible Scripture about Christ's judgments upon the apostates away from Christ that follow men's doctrines instead of the Scriptures as simply written, and when I brought up Paul's warning of listening to the false prophets with being influenced by "another...

All you've done is evade... the simplicity of the Luke 17:34-37 Scripture. Those who hold to a pre-trib rapture theory have... to evade that Scripture, because the pre-trib school uses it minus the 37th verse to try and support their idea that the first one 'taken' is by Christ Jesus, with the...

[/color] Where did God first establish the idea of His day per Scripture? You've got to be kiddin' me. Gen.1:5. [i] The Rev.5:9 verse goes with that 10th verse... Rev 5:9-10 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for Thou...

Like I said before, maybe English is not your primary language? 1 Pet 2:5 5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. (KJV) You cannot... add some idea of corruptibility to that...

[/color] You're telling a huge LIE. I not ONLY... provided you Scripture proof, but I well documented the difference with the Scripture referring separately to a "first beast"! Rev 13:11-18 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he...

[/color] Your overuse of that "absence of sound hermeneutics" phrase is starting to become a joke; especially with how you refuse to connect relevant Scripture about the subject and keep quoting from 1 John. The old false ploy of saying the same thing over and over again in hope people will...

Haven't you supported the idea of a pre-trib rapture on this Forum? You said the following in an above post here... First you said that's "a description of the rapture", and now you say it's about people "being removed for judgment". How is it then, that the pre-trib rapture school teaches...

Yes, I have covered that before. The Zech.14 Scripture about Christ's feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives, with all His saints gathered there, is about that very event. And Paul taught more detail about it in 1 Thess.4 and 1 Corinthians 15, which reveals how two groups of saints are...