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Stop trying to make this personal. Stepping aside from your personal opposition to child abuse, you say God is against spanking. God says at Pr 23:14. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Case closed, yes?

I think you want to distract from the morally righteous and Biblically commanded tool of corporal punishment, not wanting to differentiate between hurt and harm. Another example of this differentiation is when a parent loving takes a splinter out of a child's finger. It hurts! But not tending...

Possibly learning from someone is now the standard of being a teacher? Good grief, back to the word games.

So, How do you know this about my grandmothers?

No it doesn’t as I just explained the difference between hurt and harm. Stop expecting life to meet infantilized expectations.

How do you know this about my grandmothers? I read Decision Points by George W Bush. In it, he often repeated something his father President Bush 41 was fond of saying. Although I now know it did not originate with him, it remains a brilliant point. Preach the Gospel every day. If you have to...

Not even a little bit. The presumption that you are making is that Episkopos is my teacher or preacher and I have some burden to respond what he says AS THOUGH he were.

Just what else do you expect imperfect people to do?

You obviously do not know who the anointed one is. I suggest you study up on it for your life depends on it.

Yup. People like you who cannot cope with the violence in the world even though it is less violent than ever.

Again, it is not a judgement but an observation. In this case, an observation of what you are promoting defying what is in Scripture.

What foolishness! Not only do you disregard history, you disregard nature. It is not just human nature but the way of life on Earth to realize We live in a dangerous world, forever ruled by the effective use of violence. One of the myths taught today is that violence is not the answer...

No. It's not a judgement but an observation. If you did not get an ass whooping when you climbed a tree as a kid and stubbornly do it again, rather than your parent imposing punishment, gravity will. Only outside the protective graces of your parents, nature may put an end to your foolishness...

Not suggesting any coping IS the infantalizing of adults and children alike. I think you know I am suggesting is a coping skill. Not getting what you want - and dealing with it effectively is a coping skill. This includes wanting no hurt or harm to come your way. It is part of life. It's time...

The theoretical utopia is socialism. Maybe you don't even realize you've been so indoctrinated with it.

Not really. I'm putting INTO CONTEXT what you are vaguely equating, hurt from harm.

Hmmm. Sounds like too much is expected of teachers and preachers, if that is the case. Not only are teachers and preachers imperfect human beings, long ago online I rejected the stated expectation that all my posts should be comprehensive in scope. Likewise, teachers and preachers only have a...

You are lost, friend. 1st, there is a difference between harm and hurt. If my granddaughter runs toward the street as a speeding car is about to hit her, and I grab her arm, pulling it out of it's socket, I have hurt her. However, to NOT impose this hurt would have resulted in the last full...

You call yourself a Christian? The Bible says there is a hell - and beating kids with a rod will prevent them from going to hell. But you know better. This, you have the audacity to displace Christ with in referring to as the Good News?!

A 2nd bite at this apple. This is a fellowship lounge, not a doctrinal study or debate lounge. This means relationships. In the other thread, I mentioned my devout Catholic grandmothers. (Which you also ignored) While devout, theologians they weren't. These 2 women modeled the Christian life...