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  1. Eternally Grateful

    Were the brothers in Matthew 13:55 Mary's sons?

    I was thinking the same thing ;)
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I just use Abraham as an example. And he believed God and God accounted or credited to him as righteous. When God sees him, he does not see abraham's filth. he sees his sons righteousness It must be Gods grace. because we can not earn it, We are guilty. That's why redemption though the blood...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    pretend righteousness? Its obvious you know nothing about redemption.. when a persons crimes are paid for by another person.. they can not be tried for that crime again. Actually I do.. 1. there is non righteous, no not one 2. According to the law. I am a sinner.. 3. According to the law I...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    that which is born of spirit is spirit..
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    exactly, its not an eternal dying, it is an eternal separation from God.
  6. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    if you taught what the HS said. you would teach the bible it is quite evident.. that is not the case
  7. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Your right. a guilty person who is deemed righteous having his guilt removed by redemption.. is deemed righteous. it does not mean they are in actuality righteous.. I just claim what God says about me, and what God says he will or has done for me. Thats why my trust is in him, not myself...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    He actually said salvation is based on location? wow
  9. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    why do you deny the righteousness of Christ. and try to replace it with yours? why do you deny the requirment that we must be born again?
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Romans 7 says it all Paul does nto do what he wants to do. and he does what he does not want to do. the flesh still sins. it still seeks to serve self. to boast in self. to pump self up. to take for self. It must be crucified for sin, or selfishness, to dwindle. however, even then, it will...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The greek word has a judical meaning. To be justified is to be declared in right standing. or innocent. It also means to be made righteous. We are guilty, the penalty is death.. When we are said to be justified. it means our guilt is removed. we are made righteous. That is what Paul says in...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    They keep asking why,,that shows they do not comprehend what it means we are dead.. in adam all die in this dead state we are condemned.. and unless that dead state is taken care of.. we will nto see God or his kingdom thats why Jesus said one MUST (it is not an option) Be Born Again...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    I am amazed at those who take biblical truths and make reigious terms out of them that destroy the trut meaning words like born again, baptism. its sad
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    we are born dead. thats the first death.. Unless one is born again, they will not see the kingdom... the second death is an eternal death in the lake of fire
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Question for non-JW's

    Actually to perish is to suffer the second death Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Who is living the lie it is no longer I but Christ in me Its his righteousness. My righteousness will never add up. You are not nor will you ever be as holy as you think you are
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    excuse me sir Christ hung on the cross. Not me Stop thinking you can do what Christ did. stop taking credit away from him
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    it begs the question if the body is dead because of ongoing sin how is the spirit alive because of righteousness? Since if we have sin we are not righteous oh wait, It gives us the answer. If Christ is IN YOU its not our righteousness, it is Christ in us,, his righteousness..
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    and here we go. We have to purchase our entrance into heaven. The cross was not enough. :rolleyes: