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If you understand the fulfillment by Jesus of the Isaiah 42:7 prophecy per the "spirits in prison" of 1 Peter 3 and 4, then yes, they had to have been baptized (spiritually) into Jesus' death when they accepted Christ's preaching of The Gospel, and led them out of that prison house. Like He said...

I have to ask a question in response, what do you think when Jesus did this for those of the Old Testament? Isa 42:6-7 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open...

Ask our Heavenly Father about it through His Son. I can't make you 'see' what those Scriptures are about, even though they are plain to me, and I gave a brief description for each one. And you cannot allow preconceived denominational notions to interfere when you read it. You have to read as if...

Have you studied 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 thoroughly? I know pre-trib likes to pull from that chapter a lot, but I find many on pre-trib haven't properly understood it. Matt 24:29-31 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...

Oh, I know plenty that do believe they reign from Heaven.

That part in verse 20 is an expression for longevity. Either one believes in 'eternal life' per the New Covenant... through Christ Jesus, or one doesn't. The new heavens and a new earth happens after the future "lake of fire" event. However, Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 47, and Revelation 22:14-15...

Start in Genesis 1 and go all the way through. That's what I recommend. I have several study Bibles, but the best one I use is the KJV study Bible E.W. Bullinger put together in the 19th century, called The Companion Bible. It's worth having a copy just for the Appendixes in the back. What he...

I think I posted some of this already... Isa 19:23-25 23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians. 24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and...

You do realize the word church in the Greek (ekkleesia) simply means an assembly or congregation don't you? Both the Old Testament and New Testament make the same distinction about these called out ones (Deuteronomy 7:6; 1 Peter 2:9; Titus 2:14). Apostle Paul even said the children of Israel in...

Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 in conjunction with 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. That would make a good first step. But you'd first have to overcome man's doctrine that says Christ's Olivet discourse isn't for the Church. Well, Jesus was speaking to the foundation of His Church giving that, and...

then you are in a small group of Pre-tribulationalists, because the majority of them accept Darby's brand of Dispensationalism about the Millennium too.

I am not lying. It's actually 'you' that is lying against the Scriptures with trying to support Pre-tribulationalism and Darby's theories of Dispensationalism. If you had actually understood the Luke 1:31-33 Scripture, you would have admitted that the kingdom Jesus reigns over will be... the...

Christ's "thousand years" reign with His elect will begin on the day of His return, which is the "day of the Lord". The new heavens and a new earth is not until after the "thousand years". The wicked who perish in the future "lake of fire" at the end of the "thousand years" won't see the new...

Nothing Biblical about a pre-trib rapture theory, so you've started right off on the wrong foot. Listen to Lord Jesus, not man. In Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27, Lord Jesus showed that His coming to gather His Church is AFTER... the tribulation. And the gathering He said there links...

Not everything in Darby's theory of Dispensationalism is written in The Bible. His idea of the restored kingdom of Israel on earth while Christ and His Church reign from Heaven is not written anywhere in God's Word. Thus it is impossible... that you studied that idea from God's Word. I...

For those who believe men's doctrine that the Church will reign from Heaven... How is this below going to be possible if Christ's Church is in Heaven, because the wicked "synagogue of Satan" certainly will not be in Heaven? Jesus said the below to the Church of Philadelphia... Rev 3:9 9...

As usual, nothing but secular humanist supposition, and nothing per God's written Word.

You are simply heeding a Catholic tradition of men, NOT an idea that comes from God in His Word. There simply are too many Scriptures in The New Testament Epistles that use the term "saints" when speaking to believers on Christ Jesus in a general sense for it to mean an elect within an elect...

That is specifically written by Apostle Paul... 1 Thess 4:14-15 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him. Paul is saying that if we believe Jesus rose from the dead then the resurrection of the dead is real. And those...

Right, that's what I mean by the Pre-tribulationalists wanting to have their cake and eat it too. The idea that when the kingdom of Israel is restored on earth when Jesus comes, and that means 'only' Israelites that did NOT believe, and then claiming the Israelites who 'did' believe are no...