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  1. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Matthew 7:21-25 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
  2. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    The fun part is discussing all the elements and affects. So many different beliefs.
  3. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Matthew 7:21-25 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
  4. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Matthew 7:21-25 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
  5. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Take this Tonto! Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Matthew 7:21-25 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord...
  6. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Matthew 7:21-25 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
  7. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    It is more correct to say that baptism is part of the process....the "Way" Does faith alone save? If nothing else happens are you saved? Just the thought that Christ is real does not save you. At no point in the scriptures is baptism said to be an option. Christ and the Apostle said to believe...
  8. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Aww did I stomp on your false religion! So sad....how long have you had this BS in your head? The words saved and salvation appear in the OT and the NT but they mean different things. Only one name can be called upon for salvation. Oh by the way the letter J came out 1400 years after Christ and...
  9. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    You so funny! I define salvation as Christ. No salvation before him. God did not threaten the Israelites with hell. He did not offer them heaven as a reward. And the Jews do not believe in a devil. God nor the prophets spoke to anyone about Satan, nor did they warn them about him, nor did the...
  10. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    What was Noah saved from? Noah was saved from the water. Saved his and his families lives. What was Naaman saved from? Saved from Leprosy. What were the Ephesians saved from? Saved from Satan. No salvation in the Old Testament.
  11. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Are you guys playing dumb or is it not a act
  12. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    They call them the hard sayings of Christ. And the Apostles have a few. And no I am not perfect.
  13. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I have no trouble with paradise. There are people that will form a whole religion on one scripture. What are you going to do with, you must hate your mother and father to be a disciple of Christ? Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Selling all that you have is a...
  14. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    No contradiction. Christ and the Apostles said to believe and be baptized. If that does not happen it is between you and Christ. Where is Paradise? You are saying that Christ went to heaven and back to the tomb, resurrected and then ascended to heaven. There is nothing in the storyline that...
  15. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Absolutely not. I am not saying that. I am saying that Christ and the Apostles said to believe and be baptized. If not it will be something that you will be judged for. What reason would you give Christ why you did not get baptized? What reason would you give Christ for thinking it was not...
  16. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I believe in the Gospel. When some one tries to pervert the word of God I take exception. Then again, many times I have pointed out that final judgment is up to Christ.
  17. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    I have already answered these questions more than one time and more than one way. The things that Christ and the Apostles said to do, you should do....anything less for any reason then it is up to Christ to decide your fate. Not that you will go straight to hell if you do not get baptized or...
  18. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Dead serious! Again and again I keep saying that in the end Christ will judge the circumstances. And all these attempts to "dodge" the words of Christ and the Apostles is in vain. They give no if's, no and's, or but's. There words are final and stand as truth. Do you judge their words?
  19. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    Dodging the question! How many ways have I put this. Do you need braille or smoke signals, or bongo drums! Saved means saved from something. In no language does saved mean ticket to anywhere. No matter what, your passage to heaven is up to Christ. Some people think that all judgment occurs the...
  20. Grailhunter

    Salvation Through Baptism ???

    The process for salvation was told by a God…Yeshua. Then retold by the Apostles. Then retold by the Early Christians. It is down right ignorant for someone to stand up 2000 years later and discount the words of Christ and the Apostles. 2000 years later somebody got it right! 2000 years later...