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Uh huh. The Bible ALSO says that I WILL BE saved - IF I stand firm and IF I do the Lord's will (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).

Yup - He ALSO knew what everybody else wold chose. This includes those who chose Him - then LEFT Him.

Psychobabble?? It's simple Koine Greek. The fact that you label Scriptural proof as "Psychobable" because it's not in English speaks VOLUMES about about your desperate attempt to discredit it. Epignosis is NOT a word that was "invented" by the Catholic Church. It is a REAL word with a REAL...

EVERYBODY is redeemed (paid for) and EVERYBODY has a chance at salvation. NOT everybody will choose to accept it. God knew from eternity those who would choose Him - but you and I didn't make our choices in eternity because we are bound by time.

And that STILL doesn't take away from the fact that there are those who are born again and later choose to walk away from God. They weren't any "less" born again than those who chose to stay. That's the whole point of this thread.

I've never been a "Romanist" so that's not a concern for me.

For HIM, who is outside of time (2 Pet. 3:8), everything is quick and deliberate because it is in the eternal "now." WE, however, are bound by time, so our sanctification is a process.

The fact that God "pre-knows" does NOT mean that He coerces. He knows OUR choice because He is eternal. He didn't MAKE that choice for us.

It's even sadder to read the rantings of blind anti-Catholics who refuse to acknowledge when they're wrong . . .

Correct. We ALL sin but as Christians, we strive not to sin or live a life of willful sin. This does NOT mean, however, that we will ALL succeed because many Christians cease to rely on God and fall back into a life of willful sin. These are people who had an Epignosis of Christ and chose to...

Agreed. EVERYBODY has the proclivity toward sin (concupiscence). For some, it is stealing, others, lying, others, gossiping - and others fornication, pornography or other sins. We are ALL called on to resist sin by relying on God.

Why would you put your future in ANY man's hands?? WHO told you t o do that?? Certainly NOT the Catholic Church. What anti-Catholics like YOU fail to admit is that ALL Christian sects are made up of flawed, sinful human beings - and Christ's Church is NO different. But, HE chose to build it...

Soooooo, are you one of those people (like Taken) who claims that they don't sin?

While we're on the subject of Luther - did you know that NOT all of his so-called "95 Theses" were gripes against the Church?? SOME of them were agreements. Study these things before bringing them up in a debate . . .

No - what is "pointless" is discussing matter of history when one of the parties either invents part of it or proliferates some tired old lies. I'll make you a deal: Show me ONE document, declaration or decree from the Catholic Church supporting, condoning or ordering the sale of indulgences...

And this is speaking to ONE specific instance. This is not a general rule. Epignosis is REAL. It's FULL and EXPERIENTIAL. Oida or gnosis can be superficial . . .

And in ALL of this verbose blather - not ONE shred of it refutes the fact that the Word of GOD that says a born again person having "Epignosis" of Christ can fall away and be lost forever (Matt. 5:13, Matt. 7:21, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, 2 Peter 3:17, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19) .

Who said anything about mere "knowledge"?? As I have educated you on MANY threads now - "Epignosis" is to be born again. It is a FULL and EXPERIENTIAL knowledge - much like marital relations are a full and experiential knowledge of the spouse. That's why it is called the "consummation" of a...

I guarantee you that most Christians know that their sanctification is a process.

I can disagree with whomever I want.