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Yes, even so. Consider what Jesus said in John 10:17: "Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again." And then the first part of the next verse, John 10:18: "No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself..." What did Jesus do? What does God...

Notice that @Nancy put the word, "Christians", in quotation marks. There was certainly a reason for that. It may be the same reason that you've never met someone you could classify that way. We are talking about rotten fruits, are we not? What does a tree produce? What is a tree? Then again...

Indeed... "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son...

@bbyrd009 At times I know absolutely that I am with God. There's that AT [absolute truth] wanting to sneak into our conversation, but probably the AT is not available to both us on the same point at the same time. Then when I have moved [maybe only apparently moved] downward because of what...

Yeah, I think that I know what you mean. I am still nevertheless wishing things were different/better than they are for so many. I won't even say for the moment what I really mean because it would hurt others as well as me. Even having some things in my heart is an error on my part. Even as I...

While I do understand what you mean with the word, "Church", it still is a way to communicate at times. If, however, we don't explain what we really mean, someone may well receive the wrong message. Too many, unfortunately, don't really care anyway. Am I depressed?, No, more disappointed with...

There are still some of the "wow" sermons going forth. The problem is that not enough people are hearing or are even willing to listen. When Jesus got a little deeper, that is when many stopped listening and walked away from Him. I do spend a little time listening for good messages online. If...

Or to convert your sarcasm: Trust them NOT at all.

Yes, we have learned the hard way, but sometimes when I have let myself drift into even some of my old ways, there I am again trusting when there is a real reason NOT to trust. I was never able to get from man what I was always hoping to find when I walked only as a man of flesh with no...

Like a dream? My life, that is the time I spend doing things as a man of flesh as per your example when I walk out the front door sometimes remind me of what I am and what I am not. This past year without that tangible church group to which I did belong I thought I would be lost, but considering...

But what man who speaks or writes can we believe without doubt or question? Will even the most thorough research give us all of the necessary truth? Then comes Pilate's question: What is truth?

Consider the well educated Pharisees and Sadducees in the time of Jesus as a man. They knew the scriptures as do many Bible teachers today, but without a close contact with God, indeed without charity and love, they have nothing at all... so anyone blindly following will also be misled or...?

I visited your site and quickly scanned those two. Interesting!

Yes, as the world might say, close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades... and this is more serious than any game!

Will it even bring some back to hopefully understand that staying on God's side is our only hope...? Man continues to work hard himself at doing the impossible, directing his steps to a better way. Jeremiah's words on this which I have quoted often on this forum still apply as carnal man is...

If only it were so!

Praise God who is able in every situation to accomplish His purpose... without regard to what any man says or believes! Glory to His name indeed!

@Dave Watchman Welcome to the forum, Dave, rapture believer or not.

This I believe as well. The key, as I see it, is to stay always on God's side. Being there, everything that happens to us will be in accord with His perfect will.

No one but God could bring us to the place of being able to love our enemies, or any who really show us nothing which to us seems loveable at all. Why does God allow such situations? As you say, David was punished, but his punishment was NOT what required by the law. For either adultery or...