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Sooooo, you're saying that Ralph Woodrow is a liar - but Alexander Hislop wasn't?? Is THAT what you're saying??

Or you DO believe in it - then you STOP.

That's completely false - and the Scripture warn us about this (Matt. 5:13, Matt. 7:21, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, 2 Peter 3:17, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19). If we choose NOT to cooperate with grace and NOT to do the will of the Father - we will LOSE our security.

You need to learn the difference between the flesh and the spirit.

And the rules of faith don't change for ANYBODY - no matter WHAT part of history you live in. We must endure in faith TO THE END. God will accept nothing less . . .

Almost 3,000 posts on this thread and not ONE SHRED of evidence for OSAS exists. All we have seen are your pathetic attempts at twisting Scripture - but NOTHING from Scripture itself. Bottom line: We are forever secure IF we endure to the end in faith. That's the BIBLICAL truth.

Of course not. The Scriptures NEVER count unless they agree wit Taken's man made positions . . .

I've given the official definition at least 5 dozen times on this thread alone. It means a FULL and EXPERIENTIAL knowledge. You cannot have a full, experiential knowledge of Christ and NOT be born again.

It's not for me OR you to know WHO stopped having faith. That is between them and God. I DO know, however, that the Word of God warns us about it . . . Matt. 5:13, Matt. 7:21, Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Peter 2:20-22, 2 Peter 3:17, Rev. 3:5, Rev. 22:19

And it's ALL a process - just like the fact that . . . - We ARE Saved (Rom. 5:1, 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8) - We are BEING Saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, 7:1, Phil. 2:12, Heb 12:14). - We WILL BE Saved (Matt. 24:13, Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15).

WRONG. Romans 7 is ALL about the fact that although we are IN Christ and we are a new SPIRITUAL creation in Christ - we are STILL IN THE FLESH. We STILL struggle with sin and temptations of the flesh. We will never be "free" of the flesh until we die.

No - you TRIED to get me to say who - but it is NOT for either one of us to say. The Bible is not specific about WHO is going to lose their salvation. It just warns that it CAN be lost. And, by the way - you haven't "answered" anything. You have AVOIDED answering the verses I presented . . .

It appears that you don't understand what Purgatory is because it does not require "works". Purgatory is the final purification of the elect. Since Revelation 21:27 tells us that nothing unclean can enter heaven, a final purification or purgation is necessary for some before entering heaven...

The "end" is our physical death. You don't understand this?? We must endure to our death. It is NO different for Jews than it is for Christians - or ANYBODY else. God doesn't "change" the rules depending on your race.

NOT according to the Bible. Epignosis means that they were born again.

They ALL point to the fact that your salvation is conditional on your cooperation with God's will. Scenario A We are saved. We cooperate with God's will and remain faithful to the end. We spend eternity with God. Scenario B We are saved. We become complacent and eventually fall away by...

Who personally?? That's not for me OR you to say. However, the Bible warns us of their fate . . . Romans 11:22 “See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity toward those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you REMAIN in his kindness; otherwise you to will be cut off.” Paul...

Yup - he kept it simple - in that ONE verse. How about these?? - Being baptized (Matt. 28:19-20, John 3:5, Rom. 2:29, Rom. 6:1-11, Col. 2:12-17, 1 Peter 3:21) - Picking up our cross daily to follow him (Matt. 16:24, Luke 9:23) - Works of mercy and charity (Matt. 19:21, 25:31–46, Luke 18:22) -...

And YOU keep preaching the false Gospel that God forces His love on us whether we like it or not. God never forces ANYTHING on us.

And many CEASE to have faith.