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  1. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    so how you twist and turn everything? That;s why we can't have any conversation.. let see how you pull passages out of context to try to control the narrative Numbers 25: 4 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of the people and hang the offenders before the Lord, out in the...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. there is a problem I see with that...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Thats not true As moses liften the serpent, so must the son of man be lifted up that whoever believes...... The people of Israel had to have faith to look at the serpent to be saved we have to have faith to look to the cross. God does not do that for us.
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    He who practices sin has never seen or known God He who has been born of God does not practice sin I think John has it right. it is not because we sin or do not sin, it is who has been born of God, who overcomes the world? how do we overcome the world? 1 John 5:4 For whatever is born of...
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    we are saved by grace through faith, not of works but as many who have received him, to them he gave the right to become children of God.
  6. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    if we look at the hebrew word. The word after means immediately following, or the next in step. The event which took place was the messiah was "cut off" (in Hebrew it means he was killed or murdered) so at this point. Messiah is removed. the next event, we have 40 years later the people of...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    You tell me: Lev 26: 40 ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me, 41 and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    You asked the quesdtion of where the bible says Israel will repent. I showed you three passages Funny how you have yet to show me to be in error. lol. Where do you think the idea of Spiritual israel came from? Come on man, Your wrong. Your not taking it into context.. I never said you did. I...
  9. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    No, Israel were cut off. The context is israel (saved remnant and losr blinded) vs Gentile believers God deals with Israel as a nation.. read lev 26 Read the law. The fact you do not know this worries me
  10. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    That does not prove 70AD was worse than WW1 or WW2. This your opinion and it is wrong You have presented a few examples of what you think makes it worse. It does not prove anything Oh I presented stuff. Like your Paul you ignore what I presented. and then bear false witness that I did not...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    You have nothing Your trying to control the narrative. Your interpreting history to fit your belief, not what History actually shows..
  12. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    We are discussing Dan 9. Not romans 11.. Nice try yet you follow their belief. You’re right, He also made a promise through one son, And that unconditional promise is still in effect today. It has nothign to do with anyones salvation, theirs or ours. God does not renting on his promises...
  13. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    Romans 9 is talking about Israel. The nation and answer the question, Did God make a mistake (chosing Israel) it would take a whole thread to go through this. Saying not all are israel is saying not all of Israel are saved.. hence. Not all israel are israel. But that has nothing to do with...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    You only discuss scripture you want to If you read those passages. They Say Jesus will take the nation of Israel Which was scattered and how they will not longer continue in their transgressions. Now you can take that how you want. But in all three cases. It says basically All israel. To me...
  15. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    well you do not understand it. And romans 9 says what it says. I understand it.. You are claiming to be a spiritual Israelite. Which by the way I acknowledged when I said even a spiritual Israelite would understand Now again you dog me You’re the one wiht issues. Not me What Did God say All...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    Yet I gave you 2 OT passages and 1 NT passage which proves Israel will repent. And turn from her sin as a nation. and you can not even discuss it. And you call My view convoluted?? People of Israel will still sin. Thats not the sin that is being spoken about. If you would read lev 26 and what...
  17. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    Even a spiritual Israelite should understand God and his dealing with physical Israelite. And confirm his promise made to them through Abraham as a nation WHEN ISREAL STOPS THEIESIN AGAINST GOD AND RECIEVES THEIR MESSIAH. 70 weeks are given FOR YOUR PEOPLE to MAKE AN END OF SIN why was...
  18. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    Thats not what Daniel 9 is about We can read daniel 9 together. Or we can keep ignoring context and risk misinterpreting what Gabriel was saying to Daniel and why he said it and who he was talking about
  19. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    How do i think the end of sins will be revealed? where do I start Ez 37: and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them...
  20. Eternally Grateful

    70 AD revisited

    They can;t? You claim to be an Israelite. But you do not know their law? And what God said concerning them and their sin? Lev 26 40 “‘But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their ancestors—their unfaithfulness and their hostility toward me, 41 which made me hostile toward them so...