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Please find out the diffference between Justification and Sanctification. I'm always amazed that Christians do not know this difference when it has so much to do with our salvation... It's readily available on the internet.

Could I get the Reader's Digest version? I've never heard of what you're saying above. Those who are learning are enlightened and those who are enlightened are saved. I'd never read the bible or heard the salvation message when I met Jesus many years ago. As to Judas, Judas was saved and then...

Well I'm happy for you. I'm so sure of myself because I know I'm right. We didn't have to wait for good ole' Calvin to come along and introduce silly ideas about salvation being secured forever based on a one-time experience. As far as learning... Yeah. My learning days are over. I'm all set...

Salvation is a gift. Which must be held onto. I believe I've answered all of the above in my previous post just above. Your beliefs are not pivotal to me, please provide scripture for those beliefs. You sound like a Calvinist. Did Calvinistic ideas exist before 1500 AD? I can show you that...

The problem here is that some who are born again turn away from God sometimes. I have seen this. It could be that they never really believed, I don't doubt this. But I like to go by scripture and Paul made it clear that salvation could be lost. Many of his letters have words in them such as...

Hi Apak, sorry for delay. Everything I write to you personally, is for you. If you think it's a question, then it is. Also, I know about hermeneutics and exegesis, but it's a good lesson for those who may not know. Of course, everything you've said in this regard is correct. Good deeds and...

Sorry 'bout that. When I say NO, it means I don't agree. I agree that our behavior glorifies God. Everyone around here respects the JW's for being such nice and well-dressed persons. I wish they could say the same for Christians. So, yes. It's also for us and to glorify God's name, but, I...

Taken, What I mean is that I do not make up theology or apologetics. I say what I've learned from two mainline churches. I say the words, but I'm repeating what I've learned.

I agree with all of the above. The problem I have is with those that say that being saved one time in life will literally guarantee salvation. If you notice, in your post above you said that Jesus said "thy faith has saved thee". Right. As long as we have faith, we are saved. What if I lose...

Why? I'm an ex Catholic. I'm not anti-Catholic.

Taken, I'd like to welcome you to the forum. This may be your first one. We're blessed to have you here- However, you make statements but don't say why you make them or back them up with anything. It could be scripture or anything else you deem important. Just a thought for you.

I need that spell check program... I do respect theologians. I can't put myself in their class. I've read some books, not many, and the knowledge they have is awesome. Of course, I agree with those that are of the ideas that I've learned from churches and with which I agree with. As far as...

By the way, IT IS NOT MY understanding. It's the teaching of mainline churches. Some churches these days like to teach new ideas that were not around until the year 1,500 AD.

What good is disagreeing? Tell us why you disagree. What did I say that seems incorrect...

No. Behavior also affects God. It is not ONLY for us or for a witness as many state. It's what Jesus demanded. We're required to behave in a Christianly manner, otherwise we're just like the rest of the world. Isn't this true? Jesus said If You Love Me, You Will Keep My Commandments. John...

You probably believe in eternal salvation. It does not exist in the N.T. Next time you read what Jesus said during His 3 year plus ministry, pay attention to what He's saying. He never said that you believe one time and are saved forever. Look at this verse: John 5:28-29 28“Do not marvel at...

Who are we to say who's saved and who is not?? Some ACT like they're not saved, but then proclaim that they are. These are the ones that confuse me. If you're saved, you should act the "part"... Jesus said so. He didn't speak so much about being "saved", but He did speak a lot of behaving like it.

Your last paragraph is an interesting concept. Mainline theologians do not believe Jesus spend any time in hell. But the N.T. does speak of His going to the prisons... maybe someplace in Hades - who could know this for sure. Sometimes we spend pages discussing ideas we cannot know about even if...

I agree. Death will be a continuation of life, this mortal life I mean. If we live here with God, He'll be with us after death. And if we, instead, wish to make this life here with the enemy, then the enemy will be with us after death. It's our choice...

You'll be happy to know that Don Alberto agrees with you. He apologized, about a year ago, at a MASS, that the church has mislead persons and that there is no such place as hell. Needless to say, many were very happy to hear this and the attendance at his bible study has increased markedly. I...