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Ummmmm, you might want to re-read that last sentence . . .

And that's NOT what I asked at all. In fact - you danced around the entire issue. I asked - WHERE did charity get the false idea that Paul was converted while Jesus was still alive (AD 32)??

Yup - and Jesus equated himself with His Church (Acts 9:4-5). Now - WHICH one of the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant sects do you think He was talking about?

Sooooo, you believe that ALL of the man made Protestant denominations are outside of the ONE Church? Funny - that's not what I got from your post . . .

Jesus built ONE Church - just ONE (Matt. 16:18, John 17:21-23). He didn't build tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering sects that ALL teach different doctrines. Either you're a PART of that ONE Church - or you are separated from it. This is the fate of those unfortunate...

Yes - HER offspring crushed the head of the serpent. In case you forgot - Jesus has a mother and her name is "Mary."

Your phrase above in RED is s classic example of the tragedy of the Protestant Revolt. It doesn't matter what YOU personally feel about what the Church is. Jesus already laid it down and there is NO going back. Either you're part of it - or you reject it (Luke 10:16). There is no in-between . . .

Quetzalcoatl was the "Feather Serpent" - not a serpent on a pole. Do you know what the Aztec descendants in Mexico referred to the Blessed Mother in their native Nahuatal tongue when she appeared to Juan Diego? They called her Coatlaxopeuh”, (pronounced “Quatlasupe”) - the "Serpent Crusher."...

I don't come up with my own opinions about the Church - nor do I offer any alternate teachings. I simply parrot what Christ's Church has been teaching for 2000 years . . .

Well, if you're talking about the Catholic Church, you're on extremely shaky ground. First if all - the Vatican isn't in Rome. It's not one ANY of the 7 hills of Rome. The Catholic Church is not an "empire" - but the Body of Christ. Try again, my Scripturally-bankrupt friend . . .

Because Nomad correctly made the point back in post #6 that the Bible is pretty much silent on the matter. I simply agreed with him, and as usual - YOU turned it into yet another anti-Catholic assault . . .

YOU did. So, YOU should know better than to change positions while desperately trying to defend both . . .

Soooo, you admit defeat on this point? Good for you . . .

No - that's according to the FACTS. You see - that's the beauty of an open forum. ALL of the information remains online so we have a record . . .

Can you show me where the Bible says that this in (RED) is necessary for salvation? Chapter and verse, please. I surrender fully to Hi, when I am obedient to His Church - as HE prescribed (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23, Acts 9:4-5).

Thank you for that skewed Protestant version of Church history that you copied and pasted from the writings of Benjamin Wilkinson over at GospelHerald.com, which touts the writings of other anti-Catholic "giants" such as false prophetess Ellen G. White. Well, at least we know where you're...

Where do you get the false idea that Paul was converted while Jesus was still alive?? That said - EVERYBODY within the Church is subject TO the Church's Authority (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 15:12-15, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).

No - you've glossed over these passages with your usual denials but you've never actually addressed them. You're right - this thread IS about the council of Jerusalem. It is about Apostolic Authority - and you've got it all wrong . . .

Peter is at the top. Paul had the authority of an Apostle - but not as Chief apostle.

WRONG. We read in the Epistle of James's that we are justified by our works - and NOT by faith (belief) alone. True faith = Belief + Works. One without the other does not equal true faith. Works alone get us nowhere - just as belief alone is worthless. Works are an essential component of...