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That is your entire takeaway from Luke 17:26-37? Really? I'm surprised that you apparently do not believe that there references to one being taken and one left has to do with one being taken up to meet Christ and one left behind. From what you said here, you apparently believe that one being...

He has shared more details about what he believes than anyone on this entire forum, so I think you're kind of nitpicking here. You can always ask for clarification if you're not sure what he's saying. Yeah, for sure. The time period Paul wrote about and that I believe Jesus alluded to in...

Yep. But, again, each verse has a different context which you fail to recognize. Matthew 24:15-21 is talking about tribulation in the form of God's wrath against unbelieving Jews that involves the destruction of the temple buildings standing at that time whereas Daniel 12:1 should be understood...

Context is very important and I believe you miss the context of scripture sometimes. Revelation 18 is contained within probably the most highly symbolic book in all of scripture. Matthew 24, unlike the book of Revelation, was not said to be "signified" (Revelation 1:1). There is no indication...

What makes you think I haven't? How many times have we discussed this? I've lost count. But, you somehow think I haven't yet considered what you've said about this already many times before? No, I have. I haven't read the rest of your post yet and will in a little while, but I just thought I...

I'm not. I went by what you actually said. How can anyone be satisfied with that answer? Why would such a hugely significant event that resulted from the fulfillment of Bible prophecy not even be described anywhere in scripture. Please explain that to me in a convincing way if you can. So far...

It's not possible for the rapture to have always been imminent because scripture very clearly indicates that certain things had to happen first before it would occur. Whether it is imminent now or not depends on one's interpretation of passages like this: 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you...

We'll have to agree to disagree on this. I appreciate that you reject the nonsense of both futurism and preterism, but in my view Babylon encompasses more than just the papacy. It is the mother of ALL harlots of which the papacy is one with the rest being all other false religious and...

It couldn't possibly be more clear that the ones who are left behind are killed. It very clearly says it will be like it was with the flood. All unbelievers were left out of the ark and were killed in the flood and that is how it will be when Jesus comes. And Jesus indicated that those who are...

Why are you acting all innocent here? You complain about that while you threw in unnecessary jabs in your post against him and people who interpret Matthew 24:21 like him (including me)? I would assume what he considered gibberish in that post was you saying unnecessary and insulting things...

LOL. Where is the clear, straightforward scripture which supports your doctrine? All you have to support your doctrine are highly debatable verses from the most highly symbolic book in all of scripture. That's a very shaky foundation for a doctrine! The fact of the matter is we are not told...

Obviously the car would crash, possibly into civilians or into other cars, and people would die or get hurt. There would be many such car crashes throughout the world. Everywhere that Christians were driving. Any planes being piloted by Christians would crash. It would be complete, utter chaos...

LOL. As wrong as you wrongly think I am, I feel just as much that you are wrong. To think that Jesus has already come in glory with His angels is as wrong as wrong can be. When He comes in glory with His angels all people will have to give an account of themselves to Him at that point. He will...

I believe that the scope of Babylon goes even beyond Roman Catholicism. It is the mother of ALL harlots of which Catholicism is one. Buddhism is another. Islam is another. Hinduism is another. And so on. I believe all false religions, cults and philosophies of the world that oppose the one true...

This was your answer to my question about how Rome represent the place where Jesus was crucified. Can you explain what you meant by this? I don't see it that way. Again, I believe Babylon is Spiritual Babylon and is the direct spiritual opposite of the New Heavenly Jerusalem, which is the...

Anyone who thinks I believe that the Lord was crucified in Rome needs their head examined since I never said that. Learn how to read. I told you my understanding of Babylon in post #86 and I did not say I believe it is Rome, I believe the great city Babylon is the spiritual opposite of the holy...

What are you saying here exactly? Are you talking about things that would indicate exactly when the rapture would occur? If so, that is not what I'm asking about. What you said here does not answer my question. What I'm asking you is to show me the scripture which describes the "shocking after...

I believe you are missing the context of Matthew 16:27-28. It is unfortunate that a chapter break was put in after Matthew 16:28 because that was a mistake. There is no chapter break after the same text in Luke 9:26-27. Why it was decided to put one after Matthew 16:28 but not after Luke 9:27 is...

@tailgator I don't find your arguments to be convincing at all. I believe you're trying to change scripture which specifically says He was crucified outside of Jerusalem (John 19:20, Hebrews 13:12). I stand by what I've said and have nothing to add to it.

This thread is specifically about refuting pretrib. Can you just not stand us amils so much that you can't even work with us to refute pre-trib in one thread without trying to argue with us about the same old thing yet again? It's clear to me that absolutely NOTHING could ever convince him that...