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It is a great point! "Oneness" between God and Jesus is supposed to mean he is God but "oneness" with us? D'at Different.

They can't do that; they cannot point out the 'errors' one by one and explain why they are wrong. All they can do is sweep all the evidence away that goes against their doctrine and replace it with general statements, like 'all of Scripture' points to 3-is-1 from monotheist text. Their doctrine...

Wow! Sometimes, I wish a trinitarian could give an honest response to such insight and implications. About a month back, one wrote that the Sh’ma is actually strong evidence in support of the trinity. I asked what would be good evidence AGAINST the trinity. No response. They cannot allow a...

... not God. Logos is not God. The word for God is not logos but theos. Retreating into a foreign language does not help the trinitarian cause one little bit. God is theos. By definition, logos is not theos. Logos is the root word for logic, meaning reasoning. A mind reasons. Theos reasons...

There is a YouTube vid that delves into what people mean and what they don't mean - but imply - with 'support.' The people who make the vid differentiate from an explicit teaching in the Bible. Using a non-controversial topic, the Bible explicitly teaches that man was created on the 6th day. It...

Please elaborate on the idea that the name of the suffering servant means YHWH saves + with/by his servant. This is huge!

Thank you! What I struggle with now is succinctly stating the phenomena of reading trinitarian doctrine into unitarian text. A logical implication is supposed to meet the standard of a necessary consequence, not merely a possible consequence. If I say, 'my son gave me this,' it implies I have a...

Only this year were my eyes opened to the manipulation of capitalization by trinitarian translators. And I have @Aunty Jane to thank for showing me the light. A full understanding juxtaposes 4 words: god lord father YHWH 4. The word YHWH is translated into English Jehovah. @Aunty Jane pointed...

A point I have made over the years is that the reason trinitarians MUST believe "word" refers to Christ is because the Biblical support for the man-is-god thesis is otherwise so weak. Therefore, they must resort to taking figurative language and insisting only a trinitarian interpretation is...

Thanks! I totally enjoy my non-mystical perspective and you dancing around simple questions in a desperate attempt to divert attention from the subject at hand. War is bad. Prosperity is good. God has more mystery and wonders than we know.

So what? Why down play the 'basic understanding' he gave us through Scripture but play up the mystical majesty and wonder? This thread is NOT about 'mystical majesty and wonder' but about knowing - which even 'basic understanding' is knowing - Jesus is the Father or he's not the one true God...

Sad. You are a bad witness. So dishonest and willfully ignorant. You cannot address the fallacy of your own ideology. EVEN IF Peter only was given the keys, it does not extend to the RCC. Instead of addressing this, you just ignore it. Said. RCC, the original heretics.

There is a difference between having an honest disagreement from being dishonest. You say 'binding and loosening' is different than having the keys. We say they are the same. What makes them different matters?

LOL It was already repeatedly disproved multiple ways. EVEN IF only Peter were given the keys, you again prove your denomination asserting a claim of authority it does not have. 'Only Peter' means, by definition, no other human people, including, none of the other Apostles and none of the other...

Pure mysticism. You assert something is true, then blame reason and language for your failure to factually support what you claim is true. Appeal to Strawman. No one is 'refusing to allow for the mystery of the otherness of God.' We are just not violating Mark 7:13, in speculating beyond the...

You mean like Jesus is either a man or a god and cannot be both?

I’ve mentions this. They respond super literal, that Gnosticism was a 2nd century movement.

Doh! You forgot about the artificial parsing of synonyms, 'person' from 'Being.' When I ask for a verse that makes this distinction, their funny appeal to mysticism emerges. Something like, only people who believe as I do are part of the Spirit body, you gots to believe and then it will make...

Akin to their reading of Scripture. Only verses in support of their doctrine are allowed on the table for discussion. Their rationalization for verses that undermine the trinity is something to behold.