Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    How many times do I have to say go look at it for yourself. How many time did the word Satan appear in the original scriptures? In this discussion quoting NT scriptures only means you are missing the point. Satan is Satan, the question is, when does he become an issue. In the OT God is not...
  2. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Do I need to send smoke signals! Because words are not sinking in. I am not telling you to believe me. I am telling you to go look it up for yourself. I have no denomination to defend. I have no denomination to promote. My ministry is the truth and I do not have to defend it because you can seek...
  3. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    For me any denomination that says, Here, believe this way." It is a red flag for me. If the doctrine was developed with a slogan like the Trinity or Original Sin and was enforced by pain of death. Then I know it was a lie. Don't believe what people tell you to believe. I do not say, believe me...
  4. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Either way, for Christians, if we want to know the truth, we have to dig through the layers of changes and doctrinal insertions. If you do not, your fundamentalism is a religion of men....So why did Joseph Smith think there needed to be a change? The answer is obvious.
  5. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Do the Jews believe in Satan? Jewish Virtual Library Learning Religions Satan appears as a proper being only twice in the whole of the Hebrew Bible, in the Book of Job and in the book of Zechariah (3:1–2). In both of these instances, the term that appears is ha'satan, with ha being the...
  6. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Did not say that the devil is called a she. The Jews believe in a female demon called Lilith. Now we can get into the fiasco of the word Lucifer....Lucifer is a Latin female name....Venus....the morning star.
  7. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    The Christians and Moslems both have reinterpreted the Old Testament to suite their religious beliefs. For the Jews, the Old Testament has been there religion for thousands of years. You might want to check and see what they believed before Christianity came along and changed things. Besides...
  8. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    I know they have tried to explain it away, but scholars still see two creation stories and the Jews recognized it as such.
  9. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    The devil in the Paradise of Delights. The Christians did some work to Christianize the Old Testament scriptures. If you check the Hebrews / Israelites religion they did not have a male devil, they did have a female demon, that was of the first creation story. Her name was Lilith. The Jews...
  10. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    This one you should be able to sink your teeth into....it is in the Bible....read the creations story again and note Genesis 2:4. Point of Interest: In this first creation story.......(Genesis 1:1--2:3) as the second creation story. Note: That the first two created beings are created at the...
  11. Grailhunter

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Baptism, a little word with the power of the universe. Beliefs regarding baptism go from one end of the spectrum to the other. Many believe that when someone is baptized it causes miraculous events for the individual that are part of salvation. Some believe it is linked to repentance and thus...
  12. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Yes allegory. Good question though...does the serpent represent the devil? Two creation stories in Genesis....the Jews started the debates on that. Maybe we should feed the kids fruit instead of sending them to school? The story of the rivers are very interesting. One story they are to dominate...
  13. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    What was the fruit of the tree that Adam and Eve ate of? What did the tree of Knowledge and the tree of Life look like. Fruitful and multiply...when did they start having sex? How old was Eve? When Adam and Eve were talking to God, what did they see? Creation stories have a tendency to be vague...
  14. Grailhunter

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Going to a heavenly mountain top resort in Switzerland..... Belief is the insurance that the whole trip will not go to hell. Repentance is packing your luggage. Baptism is is the Jetliner that gets you to Holidaytown, Switzerland Communication is the mountain tram ride to that heavenly resort.
  15. Grailhunter

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Do not mind him...when he goes to the ocean he only sees desert....Mind control can do some amazing thing. He does not know history either....the early Christians were even concerned with what type of water and who was baptizing you and how cold it was......Lets all say a pray for the mind...
  16. Grailhunter

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    You just wake up? The only point I was making about the Ark is that if there was manna in it, it was symbolic. The Ark was not a storage bin for food.
  17. Grailhunter

    Significant dates of Christ - Frankincense - Are the customs Pagan? Dinners around the world!

    I guess you do not know a whole lot about this? You make it up as you go along. Either way you are on ignore now. Go troll someone else
  18. Grailhunter

    Significant dates of Christ - Frankincense - Are the customs Pagan? Dinners around the world!

    Oh, not at all. I am sure you know people have been debating this for centuries. I did not post this for no comments or points of view. Keep it coming. Thanks
  19. Grailhunter

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    May we get what we want! May we get what we need! But may we never get what we deserve!
  20. Grailhunter

    Is water baptism necessary for salvation?

    Hey, great scripture but in regard to what I said about levels of reward, I am not sure if it is relevant.