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Go to the 'lowest room' with not a single doctrine or favored belief in your hand... "When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place...

Now we are the priests. We have now the power of God by the Holy Spirit in us to clean ourselves up so we can enter in and so that we will not be cast out into outer darkness for not wearing a proper wedding garment. When we falter we can and must ask for help. If we are not asking amiss the...

While the beasts live, even though we have the Holy Spirit in us, each time we quench the Holy Spirit in us we allow the beasts to have the dominion again. When they do we will sin again. The primary beast natures in our little world of self are found in the three things of this verse as I see...

If the Hope is Jesus then, yes, but I also believe that the 'old man' is alive in most believers and this is the cause of the disagreements. To actually never again quench the Holy Spirit of God will solve a person's problems in how he serves God but alone no man can do that. For even that he...

Agreed! And if the whole of the Bible is the flesh of Jesus written as an uninterpreted parable, I would want to be very certain what the interpretation of the Holy Spirit was before declaring it as absolute truth. Jesus is the Truth, but he is Alive. The Bible is a dead carcass needing to be...

There is the Holy Place and there is the Most Holy Place [Holiest of Holies]. There is the bottom level of the ark with its unclean beasts versus the family of Noah at the top level. All were set apart [made holy] were they not? Convert that terminology from type or shadow to the reality of God...

There are many verses speaking of the beasts and beastly natures of men. As to the ark of Noah, some were saved as unclean beasts; some were saved as clean beasts; and some were saved as men. If a man fails to kill all of his beasts, both the unclean and the clean, will he be allowed to pass...

Why would we need to put hypothetical words into His mouth? Is He not already speaking to us now? Are we not His sheep? If He is leading us and showing us the Way, what would be the purpose of such hypotheticals? Jesus did go away. He went to his death on the cross, but after the Holy Ghost was...

I am glad you went to this trouble. To be honest I don't think you will change my mind or heart in this, but people who are interested should be aware of the basis of such beliefs. Thank you. And why cannot any such necessary completion be done during the time allotted by God to each of us...

Perhaps he was a scientist who thought he could get in based on knowledge instead of through Jesus! Do we not have to put on Christ? What does that mean?

Does not Paul here speak of the now? "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12 And John writes here of the then, but how does one get from seeing through a glass darkly now to 'face to face'...

The veil is rent down the middle, but can anyone simply walk right in? Is it a 'come as you are' party? And also there is only one heaven, right? But in the following verse Jesus spoke of more than one, did He not? [one of favorites of our friend @bbyrd009 ] "And no man hath ascended up to...

No such concept and yet what does the scripture say here? "And thou shalt hang up the veil under the taches, that thou mayest bring in thither within the veil the ark of the testimony: and the veil shall divide unto you between the holy place and the most holy." Ex 26:33 "Now when these things...

And does not each one of the verses written in the scriptures have some connection to every other one? If they do not, shouldn't they? "For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the...

But many people don't believe his prayer accomplished its purpose. What they do not understand is that not every person who attends a church meeting and not every person who says that he is a part of the Church really is a part. The Church will not be corrupted in the end of the matter. Jesus...

But perhaps God would like to help permanently break out of the circle. People say it is impossible for us not to sin, but if we could, would not that be breaking out of it? Is that not really why Jesus came and laid down his life? Impossible! "And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is...

I was reminded of this thread today and so have gone back and reviewed some of our good conversations. I did not re-read your initial writing here but did skim it a bit and reread the actual description of what you call the Wet Paint Principle. Keep on striving my friend and giving God the glory.

Yes, I see in this cycling back and forth the same thing that was happening with natural Israel. They repeatedly had to return to the priests within the enclosure of the tabernacle to the outer court to supposedly repent [and offer sacrifices] and then back outside the enclosure they went only...

I may have misunderstood you here, but in any case... "I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil." John 17:15 "Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;" John 17:20

I agree with you. Definitely not 'Christian'.