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lol and still your lies and evasion persists! When does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell? Keep dodging the questions...they are following you around.

Cool, when does your god predestine people to be evil? When does your god predestine people to hell?

Calvinists believe that you are predestined to heaven or hell before the foundation of the world was set. It is hard to get them to admit that. That is why I am so hard on them because they turn God into a monster, a puppet monster. Humanity controlled Good or bad. Faith, love, repentance...

Of course I believe in free will. David was saying he does....that is not Calvinist. Calvinist believe they are completely under the control of their god. No mind but what reflects what God puts their.

John, David Taylor says he has free-will....explain to me what twisted truth allows him to say that?

Of course, not in the mind controlled head of yours. So when does your god predestine people to Hell?

I have been showing in words and pictures all along this discussion. So you say Calvinists have free-will Are you going say that your god does not predestine people to hell before they are born? That he does not predestine people to be the elect before they are born?

Argue with me about this? You say you are not a robot? Then you have free-will. You say that you are not mind-controlled? Then you have Free-will. You say you like being a robot. Then you are mind-controlled. There is no way for you to logically win this argument. You have to go into the fantasy...

Well it is certainly the religion for those that have a persecution complex.

Do you stand in the parking lot of abortion clinics and watch God march women in to kill their babies...? Do you take popcorn! Is this a praying event, where you give glory to God for the slaughter of innocence!

Call them up! It is the reality that your mind-control will not allow you to see. Is it fun being an It? A robot? What is your reward, more of it in heaven?

Reasoning with someone that is under the influence of mind-control or Satan is very difficult. But they say not impossible even though most of the time it takes professionals. And there are professionals, there are professional interventionists and people that stand against mind-control...

Ok

I know that...I walking on eggshells. Guys, I am sad for you, that really is a horror of a religion. But....

Look nothing against you, but I am not going to talk to you about this...the things I have to say I am not going to say to a lady. So God bless.

So you were testing me? You know I do not get rude with ladies....

Your wife or someone else's?

Oh that is so cool...rescues the its so they can be its in heaven. You and VictoryinJesus sound like two Jehovah's Witnesses talking to each other with this mind control thing going on. If this is what you two want for yourselves....have a blast.

You are still selling God short. You say that is the best plan a God could think of....having its on earth and in heaven. What would be the point....Does He eat popcorn while He watches the puppet show...does he change the channel and watch those screaming in hell?

New its?