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There is a point and I am in neither camp. No claim can be absolute because there are usually exceptions. The question is, what are they, are we going to know. Now if Grailhunter kills thousands of Jews and cooks them in ovens, is he going to go to a bad place, my bet is yes. Now if someone from...

I know that is what you believe, and I respect that. It is a hard question. But it is a question that has to be resolved for the Bible to be whole. We tend to think one dimensionally, this is it, one chance only. Only one chance for the Jews sitting in Sheol, but they all went to...

Wrong reasoning. Do you know that all of the protestants denominations combined, are the minority compared to the Catholics. Does that rational mean we should disregard the beliefs of all Protestants?

Of course that would be good. But some very smart and knowledgeable people will still choose to pick a side. You speak of young Christians, this is the sort of thing that could turn them off. After all these years, we do not understand? Battling scriptures that resolve nothing. No understanding...

Again you have picked a side, leaving the other as invalid. That is not the answer. Both sides are right and have valid scriptures to back them up. But that does not make the Bible whole, it just makes each side feel good.

lol You know you are preaching to the choir. lol We both know that there are scriptures for both sides. New Christians should be taught the ramifications of sin and there are many. You know that Christ's teaching was not about keeping the color of the cows in the same field. The sins that...

Your truth....is not Gospel. There are others here that know the scriptures just as well as you and present scriptures that are just as godly as yours. Short sighted and naive of you to think only you are right. Living in a bubble makes you short sighted.

I agree that scripture must be reconciled and it usually is. But how does on reconcile unconditional security vs conditional security? You know this is true. There is an answer, and quoting supposed contradicting scriptures, is not where the effort should be used. Both sides are quoting true...

This is what Christianity has been doing for almost two millenniums, picking sides. Try arguing that point! There are two long sets of valid scriptures that say, you can sin, and a list of valid scriptures that say you cannot sin, also and…there are a full list of valid scriptures that say that...

Neat topic....not this one.

I am simply asking for you guys to address what Christ said, what Christ described. Christ said He had to leave before the Holy Spirit could come. He also said that He would come again. So do you think Christ's return will only be that you will feel His love, an indescribable feeling. The...

Ya know amadeus, who can but speaking in tongues in words, the feeling, the experience? It would be good for this thread for someone to do that. How do you talk to the unbelieving, a burden that Christ certainly had.

Ok this is going nowhere. You guys can start a thread titled “We talk in circles” some might relate to that.

So the question still is, What did Christ mean when He said that the Holy Spirit would come? That the Holy Spirit would guide us and teach us the truth? How does the Holy Spirit do this?

Ok guys...the topic is the Holy Spirit....focus.....use both hands!

Are we changing the topic again?

So the question still is, So tell me, what did Christ mean when He said that the Holy Spirit would come? That the Holy Spirit would guide us and teach us the truth? How does the Holy Spirit do this. And to the earlier reference, my point was that the Holy Spirit is not a ghost.

So how do those scriptures compare to these scriptures? 1st Corinthians 12:4-10 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are varieties of ministries, and the same Lord. There are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. But to each one...

lol No the phrase "eat me" is not good. lol

ok