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Oh my amadeus, you said a mouthful! Can you imagine the guy writing Jacob's story. Ok, let see, he is the patriarch of the twelve tribes of Israel, so how are we going to word this so that he does not look like a complete dirt bag. His name pretty much was fitting.

No just a funny. Is this thread about the puppet master god, or that your salvation is at risk all the time people.

God leading people by the Spirit to man choosing to do right under his own power....lol Should you not tell Davy that the whole discussion is irrelevant because you believe that man does not have free-will to choose. You cannot sneak around with this abominable theology and not have someone call...

Hello there brother amadeus, I will point out some of this can be the trappings of the literal reading of the scriptures. Sometimes you have to step back from the literal. If not, you may not see the forest for the trees... Christ was called Emmanuel....God is with us....but not to many times...

I join ByGrace in welcoming you. What you said are facts....put a lot can be read "into" that, so what is the significance.

If you think the BACs are spiritually blind you should meet some of the RTI's.

She took it as rude...read the post. If you do not understand the difference of right and wrong....this is not going to go well. If you are not going to apologize there is no reason for you and I to talk.

All well and good. My exception is rudeness with the ladies. You want to talk with me...that is fine. Some people have had rougher lives than others. Who has not had someone wrong them. Forgiveness is a foundational concept in Christianity. Forgiveness heals the victim and perpetrator. Your...

No...rude in general. You are speaking of the Word of God and it appears you know nothing about the Spirit of the Word. The best your religion has taught you, is to be rude with the ladies. You know no better because you have learnt nothing. Lesson one: Christianity 101 Rule one: Keep a civil...

You both did good, you both had valid scriptures! Don't stop now! Figure it out.... Think outside the box. How can this be? You figure this out and you will find ways to figure other topics out. Do not stop!

Reading scriptures is the Elementary School level of Christian knowledge. Memorizing scriptures is the Grade School level of Christian knowledge. Understanding the scriptures is the High School level of Christian knowledge Understanding what is meant when groups of scriptures seem to contradict...

I have got to be missing something....that is a shame.

I imagine we all drift a little but the whole rude thing does not make any sense. Like I am going to take the time to go to a Christian forum to share theology and the Bible with fellow Christians....and then get rude. Because rudeness mean I know a lot about Christianity? Why waste your time...

Well, looks like he does not like the Pope...and rude too. So he has a religion that teaches him to be rude to ladies. Alrighty then! Poor guy. Don't you feel sorry for him? So if his parents were too stupid to teach him manners, what ya say we teach him some?

lol Asking you. Why were they there?

That is all good. Keep in mind forgiveness heals the victim and perpetrator. So riddle me this; What happens if you forgive first, before they repent?

Sorry I am a little late....reading through...I am trying to pick out what you have concluded here. Some questions... 1. Do you think you have come up with an answer for the period between the time Christ died and He resurrected...39 hours how does that correlate to three days and three nights...

Ok, we can talk. All good.

No nonsense. I respect what you want to believe. Freedom of religion....all cool unless you deny the deity of Christ or suggest that God is a puppet master, or that you are Christ.

If the KJV "is" your religion...I have no problem with that.