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you taking a hundred verses out of context to support your self righteous works based salvation does not in anyway. You think I am going to take my time to go through your long winded posts? You talk about grace, but you reject grace. and you want to offer me grace? There is no Grace in...

Once again, You have sanctification and justification mixed up Our salvation is through justification. A legal term which means declaired innocent. It is not our righteousness, but Gods in us. Through the cross Your trying to put us back under the law (works) and that is a different gospel...

You have works on the brain. You may claim you understand the standard but you do not. The Bible says just 1 sin, 1 sin which we stumble into. Is enough to make us guilty of the law. And by that we are cursed by that very law. The law curses you where you stand, it curses all of us, and unless...

And God said, Let us.. But he was just talking to Angels? How easy we can just destroy the word.

This whole post is only applicable if the father freed them from Egypt. The father did not. It was The God of Israel. Who created the heaven, and the earth. Who was sent by the father and the spirit..

He has a habit of that.

thats why the trinity is so hard to understand Jesus and the father are not one entity, that's why Jesus was sent by the faith, was empowered by the spirit. and Jesus had to go back so the father could send the holy spirit.

Who would that be, who helped God make man?

nice simple dodge. you prove you have never had a willingness to discuss. if you did you would answer my very simple question. and not try to make me look for your answer. Thats what proud people do..

True God is one. But that God is in three persons. so in essence. it is plural. thats why the word was used. the passage does not say, and YHWH created the heavens and the earth..

so God said, let us If God is one person. he would say let me (singular) in my (singular) sorry my friend. I am not sure why you can not see what is being said.

which is why I have him on ignore.. I am sick of him trying to attach everything I say and not listening.. and PS. He does not listen to people unless they agree with him.. Please show me where I have bore false witness?? there you go trying to sidestep again.

If you could answer a question, you would answer it I can;t prove you answered it on any forum, let alone this one. The fact you will not do it speaks volumes, it is as if you do not want to discuss it. I am not the one who is not answering questions. so I am not the one discrediting myself.

see there you go again, did you not just say you never said this? us is plural. Elohim (translated God) is plural When God says LET US.. it also by context, make God used in the plural form..

shaking my head. My friend. We are going in circles. You keep saying stuff then denying it. and you will not even answer direct questions. Yet you question me? I think you are out of answers so now you are trying to discredit me to take focus off yourself. Good luck with that

my friend, I showed you context. LET US.......

not sure why you would ask this I pray to God. I do not consider myself equal with God. I pray you do not think you are.

you are mistaken. see below yes you did

Sorry my friend. I have been a trinitarian for over 40 years. and I know many others. We all know elohim is plural.. yet here you are here again not responding to it. why?

I have thefaith on ignore. He is stuck in catholicism and can not listen to anyone..