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  1. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    the passage itself speaks of 2 distinct ressurections I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    My friend, you have now said this twice. Please show me in rev 20 where the gospel is mentioned (remember, there was no chapter verse division when the letter was written. so you are free to go back to chapter 19 to prove your point Until you show me where in chapter 19 and 20 the gospel...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Thats what Atonement s I just preach what the word says It says I have been redeemed I have been purchased I have been justified. I have been given life. after the PENALTY of sin was removed which made me dead. Your fighting a doctrine. Try to to seek trueth and stop trying to fight a...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    on the day of atonement, what did the lamb take away? year after year?
  5. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    He did take the penalty of sin away. Just like the lamb of the sacrifice took the penalty away see how you distort scripture? The lamb was to make atonement for sin. not stop sin. The lamb of God did the same. That same author said if we say we have n sin (he included himself) we are...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    the kingdom (church) has been here since the day of pentecost. The kingdom (Messianic rule) has yet to arrive. Jesus read from a scrol part of an Old Testament messianic prophesy. He stopped in the middle of it. And said what he read is fulfilled the part that came after will be fulfilled...
  7. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    true But you can't look at the news and all the evil in the world and claim that Satan is bound and Jesus is ruling with a rod of Iron.
  8. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Your not without sin. And your decieved if you think you are Your also unable to be taught by God when you do sin, because you deny you have any. You have arrived when even paul said he did not arrive.. Good luck with that my friend.
  9. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Your not our prey You are just in our prayers.
  10. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    ahh, so we are back to the same old stuff again. you made a statement "only if we do not confess" but it was just fluff. Your wrong my friend, You are deceived when you claim you NEVER serve self or place your needs above someone elses needs. That is not me saying it, it is john saying it
  11. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I disagree. If I am not sinning. I have no sin. I am in a perfected state. I also disagree with your interpretation of sin. While breaking one of the ten is a sin. If that is our standard. we are far to low on what sin really is Sin is anything not done in love. or anything done for self (the...
  12. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    you have not rebutted crap You have to show me HOW john did not include himself when he used the word We Or you have to prove John spoke in past tense not present. Otherwise. You have not proven anything.
  13. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I am not the one trying to tell everyone I am showing the the truth with the word my friend, Thats you There you go once again. Your pride runs deep..
  14. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    So now your changing your tune? So you admit you can still serve self (sin) and be a child of God? What does this have to do with anyone who claims to be sinless being decieved. there you go twisting again
  15. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    if WE say we HAVE no sin we deceive ourselves. You can;t just pick on verse, You have to pick them all..
  16. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    they have been doing that since we have been here
  17. Eternally Grateful

    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Moses was a prophet who spoke Gods word. Your not You have to correctly interpret the word first before you can claim to be a spokesman..
  18. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    no. the context was the great tribulation which which is on the whole world 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Please show in the passage where this is true Unless the gospel message is mentioned in context in rev 20. I most certainly can. Again, do you look at the news. You telling me WW1 and WW2 were not satan decieving the nations to cause war? Ah. so instead of discussing, your just going to make...