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Ummmm, I'm not the one who said that there were Churches older than the Catholic Churhc - YOU were. The onus is on YOU to prove this. However - I will provide proof of MY claim that the Catholic Church was here before ALL the others: From St. Ignatius of Antioch, student of the Apostle John...

God. Again - what does that have to do with Matt. 1:25?? Answer my question for a change.

The Church didn't put anybody to death. These trials were a matter of state. Like I said - there is WAAAAY too much misinformation to attempt to have a coherent discussion about this.

Soooo, you can't refute anything I said. Next time - just say so . . .

First of all - who said I was talking about a "building" multiplying?? Look - if you can't understand what people are saying on a forum like this - how can you possibly interpret Scripture? As for your interpretations of the of the passages regarding the Eucharist - AGAIN - there are relatively...

Actually - Jesus spoke of being baptized with WATER when He spoke to Nicodemus (John 3:3-5). The first 3 chapters of the Gospel of John are DRENCHED in Baptism (pardon the pun). Chapter 1 - Jesus is Baptized - and what do we see?? WATER and the HOLY SPIRIT John 1:29-34). Chapter 2 - Jesus's...

Time for a historical reality check. When was the Church called Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox or Coptic?? Do you have a document earlier than Ignatius of Antioch's "Letter to the Smyrnaeans"?? The reality is that the Orthodox Churches were part of the Catholic Church until the East West...

Agreed. I gave him a Biblical definition of what the Church is. He countered with "Living Stones" - yet he couldn't define it. Exposing people who cannot defend their positions makes MY job that much easier . . .

Why would you say I am calling demons believers? This is why I cant talk to you and take you serious. You twisted what I said right at the start. I'm not "twisting" anything you said. YOU said the following: "The Church is the individual believer like me." I simply pointed out to you that...

Nope. I said that the Catholic Church was not "made up" of people who practiced this. To make sweeping generalizations about ANY group is an exercise in ignorance. Try being honest, for a change . . .

That's not what I asked you. I asked about THIS thread - tell me which part of what I said is "whitewashing" or "insulting". If you can't tell me - then don't accuse me of it.

This generalization is as shallow as saying that ALL Protestants were guilty of owning slaves. The Catholic Church was not "made up" of evil people. Like any other group - it had evil people within it. These kinds of sweeping generalizations are at the heart of the ignorance that is...

Tell me which part of what I said is "whitewashing" or "insulting".

The Church is not comprised of every "believer". Remember - James 2:19 tells us that even the demons believe - and they are not part of the Church. The Catholic Church gets its name from Scripture: Acts 9:31 “Then the church throughout Judea, Galilee, and Samaria experienced peace and thus was...

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Actually - this is just more historical misinformation you've been fed. It wasn't a bad or shameful time for the Church - for the most part. Some within the Church may have done bad or shameful things during this time. As a matter of fact - the Inquisitions were a good thing, in that it gave...

First of all - "Catholic" and "Christian" are the same thing. What you meant to say was Catholics and Protestant. Secondly - the Catholic Church is the original tree from which Protestantism splintered. There has only been one Catholic Church over the last 2000 years. The Protestant sects now...

I have found that the complexity of the Inquisitions if FAR beyond the knowledge and education of most posters on public discussion forums. WAAAAAYY too much misinformation has been spewn over the years by anti-Catholics - that the lies have become the truth for so many. The pervasiveness of...

What does Matt. 1:25 have to do with the Immaculate Conception??

In short: Disobedience and spiritual pride. Jesus didn't leave us with a Bible. He left us with a Church - and He gave that Church supreme Authority to declare and teach the truth (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Matt. 28:18-20, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23). During the Protestant...